Mike Tyson's Power Overrated (In my opinion)

I was at the near the end of 9th grade, I hear it also as I watch it on MeTv also.

 

Maybe you should take One from Mike Tyson to your jaw / face first before telling us whether his punch is over rated or not...

 

Well, according to James Tillis, he punches like a, quote: "hommasexual"! lol

 

Hmmmmmm........Tysons power is overrated and Cleveland Williams is ahead of him in the top 10? Gotcha

 

alot of people do overrate his power but that list is outdated it's been mutiple who hit harder then earn and George and mike was that cause of tech and great timing which can trump a person who hits harder who has bad tech

 

Earnie Shavers had the most overrated punching power of all time. This guy hadn't beat a single person of note except for Jimmy something, and a bunch of unknown LHWs. When he faced geniune HWs, his KO percentage suddenly dropped. People just look into his KO percentage and think he's the hardest puncher without looking who he faced. He shouldn't be ranked in the top 10 punchers of all time let alone number one.

Mike Weaver, Sonny Liston, Joe Frazier and Gerry Cooney above Lewis ?

 

I agree that Tyson did not hit as hard as some, on his top 10 list ironically the most successful, Louis & Rocky, may hot the least hard.
But Tyson was no bodybuilder, he was heavily muscled from mostly body weight excercises & genetics.
Also being shorter/compact he did not weigh so much compare to some others.
He also said contradictory things about Tyson having or not having a good snap.

Anywho you do not have to have a 10 Shavers/Wlad/Wilder/Foreman type power to maybe be a more effective KO artist.
Tyson was a 9 by modern HW standards, that is huge anyway.
I dunno why he said Tyson lost power later more than others-like most it was the last to go, & he still seems to have some left.

 

Tyson's power delivered in those rapid combos was lethal.Markus Florez ,who I see is no longer with us, broke it down rather well imo.

 

Just because other boxers said Shavers hit them hardest, doesn't automatically make him the hardest puncher. Out of these people, Shavers was unable to KO washed up Ali, Holmes, Tillis and Lyle. He failed to KO tomato cans like Ron Stander, Bob Stallings amongst others, and even lost to one. Yes it's true that Lewis was unable to KO Holyfield and Toney managed to TKO him, but if we look at it from that perspective, how was Shavers not able to KO Quarry, but how did Frazier TKO him ?

Your are now using an ad hominem argument by calling people who have a different perspective on Shaver's power assholes. Not nice man. Sure he dropped Lyle and Holmes, but the outcome of the fight says it all. Both TKO'd him. In the Foreman fight, Holyfield was hit with an absolutely massive right haymaker, and a huge left jab. Neither Lewis or Tyson were able to land such a punch on Holyfield. So it's pretty obvious that Holyfield will say that Foreman was the hardest puncher he faced.

People talk about Shaver's power more than Lewis because they heard about it from the mouth of famous guys like Holmes and Ali. Thus the myth spread like a wildfire resulting in many to believe Shavers was the hardest puncher. Jeff Merritt ATG puncher ? My ass. You're now literally making stuff up. Who the actual hell was he to begin with ?


Losing to a fighter definitely adds up to your legacy specially if you do not rematch them. Shavers got KO'd by
tomato can Ron Stander and didn't rematch him. Lost to Holmes twice and failed to KO a washed up, brain damaged Ali.

McCall wasn't a small guy by any means. Neither was Rahman. Rahman had 84 inch reach and same bicep and forearm size as Lewis. McCall was well above 100kgs in both fights. Both were far far bigger than almost every fighter Shavers had fought. You know, your argument gets kinda funny from this paragraph onwards.

Obviously punching power is something you can feel. Shavers threw huge looping overhand rights, and if Lewis or Tyson threw similar punches instead of their technically balanced and compact punches, Holyfield would say both Lewis and Tyson hit harder than Foreman.
Johanson was able to KO Machen due to combination punching. Also, Rahman flushed out Lewis with a similar overhand right like Shavers. Does that makes him the hardest puncher ? No.

Cooney and Liston hit harder than Lewis ?
Who did they ever beat ? 38 year old pseudo great Ken Norton ? Human punching bag Jimmy Young ? Washed up Ron Lyle ? LHW china chinned Patterson ? Overhyped tomato can Cleveland Williams ?

Dude, instead of like this again, maybe know your facts in prior.

 

No question Tyson was an extremely powerful hitter and those in the affirmative on this thread have already broken down the whys and wherefores perfectly.

I just want to say, remember how Mike’s punches sounded so different and that much more lethal than other fighters? A combo of power, speed and snap all lending to a thunder clap like sound, including the unmistakable “whoosh” of a glove being compressed as close as possible to the knuckles.

i understand audio pick up, direction, isolation and amplification etc. have naturally improved over time but the sound of Mike’s punches still stood well above that of his contemporaries.

A long way from the old Jacobs silent boxing film collection in which every punch dubbed over sounded like someone hitting a heavy bag with a baseball bat. LOL.

IMO, this is a great demonstration of Tyson’s speed, power, snap and unique punch sound. Like a shotgun. All the more stunning for the contrast of Mike speaking ever so lightly and calmly, referring to the technique for the one punch KO, a light prop punch to mark the punch to the body and then CRASH, Mike seemingly whipping the right out of nowhere. Mike’s dressed formally also, simply highlighting the fundamentals so obviously he’s not letting it all hang out but damn, a fearsome punch all the same. Just as well little Larry Merchant didn’t get caught in the slip stream and follow the punch, head first into the heavy bag. Haha.

This content is protected

 

Tyson hit very hard with every single shot, but he was more a combination puncher.
It's true that other HWs have probably had more raw power, but he maximized his power with tecnique and intensity, and maximized his effectiveness by being a combination puncher, rather than one or two punches at a time.

 

How is that stupid ? It's true and reasonable.

At the end of the day just because they said he hit them the hardest does not make him the hardest puncher.

Tua and Ruddock most definitely hit much harder than McCall and Rahman.
Lewis lost to McCall due to a freak occurrence and lost to Rahman due to him being cocky.

Look, I am unable to keep up with this conversation. And I can't understand your point in this, so I may or may not speak correctly in argument of your opinion.

Losing to a fighter HAS to do with punching power. It's not like Shavers didn't land a single bomb on his opponent. Holmes ate that punch and then managed to outbox him.

Yeah there is definitely a difference. But just like I said, it's not like the big puncher is unable to land a single punch on the great fighter. Also, in that paragraph are you implying that Ron Stander was a great fighter ?

Definitely it's nothing to be ashamed of. But dropping your opponent so hard like that only to see them rise back up and outbox you is a bit embarrassing, isn't it ?

Tyson, Weaver, Ali and Morrison do not have Shavers and Lewis as a common opponent. So it's not possible to compare whether Lewis or Shavers hit them the hardest.

Rahman is lol. This guy was the actual Sonny Liston with a certified 84 inch reach. He's also heavier and way physically stronger than Ali, Norton, Holmes and Lyle. This man was reported to have benched as much as 500lbs.

Shavers had compact punches ?
Also that's not comedy statements.. it's either you or I are failing to understand what we are saying.

Why are you constantly coming up with ad hominem arguments ? The damage did come from a right cross, but the final combination put the nails on the coffin.

Dude, I seriously don't understand this hate against Lennox Lewis. Some people don't even consider him an ATG, some crap on him due to the Tyson fight and others hate him simply due to him being British. Also, those men that he defeated were a trillion times better than the tomato cans in your hardest punchers list. Razor Ruddock alone could've killed all of them with his smash. Couldn't even stagger Tua ? He did UD him though. Tua hit twice as hard as Quitston did. You call a 26 year old Morrison past his prime. You know what, just stop with this Lewis hate track. Styles makes fights that's why he struggled with Mercer and easily destroyed Morrison.

Still in my opinion, a terrible list.

I'm not continuing this long ass argument as I have better things to do than this. At the end, we are all entitled to our own opinion, that is your belief that some overrated can crusher hit harder than every single power puncher ever, and my opinion being the contrary. Well, if we chucked a punch from those guys we'll know better.