Mike Tyson's Power Overrated (In my opinion)

Okay than...

Whatever man, whatever

Just how Shavers definitely hit harder than Foreman, Frazier, Lyle, Cooney, Bruno, Liston, Coatzee, Bonecrusher etc

Did you actually think I didn't know that....

The problem is you don't know the difference between punching power and a great fighter, you use reason such as Shavers lost and getting knocked out to prove he's power is overrated. That's stupid af

Losing to a fighter of course has something to do punching power, but punching power has little to do to losing someone. It takes chin, heart, skills, defense, stamina, strategy, etc... for example Bob Satterfield. That guy has lose and wins against bums, contenders and champions and he got his knocked out a lot himself too. Does losing to someone and having a bad record take over the fact LaMotta claimed he hit the hardest? Does it take over the fact that he's one of the hardest p4p punchers? no. Till this day, there's a lot of people acknowledge Satterfield one of the hardest hitters who has ever stepped into the ring despite being knocked out a lot.

Becuz Satterfield was not a great fighter he's weak chinned, a problem also suffered by Earnie Shavers too. It takes more than ATG power to became champion ans that's what you fail to understand. There's a reason why a lot of non champions came from hard hitters and power punchers. Tua, Ruddock, Satterfield, Pimental, Lyle, Cooney, Langford,

Why there's a lot of non champions who are hard hitters? becuz it takes more than power to become world champion. Meaning you need to be good all around like Lennox Lewis.

At least Shavers dropped and staggered tha best chin during his day. How many chins that Lewis crack during his time? couldn't drop overweight Mercer and fading Holyfield. But it doesn't matter anyway, if they say you're the hardest hitter at the end.

So? What's your point? What are you trying to say? "A big hitter could also land a punch on a great fighter" what does this prove? We're here to determine if Shavers power is overrated or not.

What did I say that makes you say that? What the hell is wrong with you?

A man's effort is never embarrassing. Whether he feels embarrassed or not, He provided action for us and I have nothing but respect for him. Same with Wlad-Joshua, Marciano-Walcott, Satterfield-Layne, Foreman Lyle, etc... All of those got knocked despite dropping them earlier in the rounds, and all of those are one of the greatest fights of all time.

Besides, what does getting embarrassed after losing a fight has something to do with punching power? again you went off topic

Common opponents usually rate Lewis's below someone, while every Shavers opponent Shavers hit the hardest despite being compared to other ATG punchers.

Well I admit I'm wrong at that one. I'm an idiot.

Can you watch the video where Shavers dropped Mercado? It's clearly good form and not sloppy. Shavers did wood chopping which taught Earnie how to leverage his punches properly, (study up buttercup.)

Becuz the damage came from that right cross only is why everybody says Johansonn one punched Machen. (oh my goodness you are really out of your mind)

Another weak self statement, since when I claimed that I hate Lewis? He is without a doubt one of the greatest HWs of all time with a respectable number #5. We're here to claim whose the harder puncher not who is the better fighter.

I consider him ATG.

I never liked Tyson, I love watching Lewis beating the crap outta him.

Well I don't.

We're here to look who punched harder, not whose the better fighter.

So you're claiming the Smash could destroy Lyle who Foreman took sh*t load of punches to kayo him? kayo Larry Holmes with one punch?
kayo Quarry with one punch? Ali with one punch? Tex Cobb with one punch? Joe Bugner with one punch? I'm sorry, the only time his Smash look devastating is when he kayoed fading Michael Dokes. and how many Smashes did Ruddock needed kayo a shot Greg Page exactly? Well at least he could at least do it on an 80 year old Weaver right?

Oh! I forgot that didn't happen either...

You did not try to prove Lewis's punching power by telling me he decision somebody right?

Who's Quinston?

He has issues at the time. Age does define your prime. Even Liston's prime was 32 years old or something. Tommy would fight another 3 times again after his fight with Lewis. I don't claim this, it's common knowledge. Dumb*ass.

Again, I never hate Lewis. You made your own self statement.

Since when Tommy struggled with Mercer? He only gassed out and got knocked out. He never had stylistical issues against Mercer but it happen against his fight with Joe Hipp.

Struggled against an overweight Mercer and easily destroyed a fading Morrison. At least Mercer actually kayoed "Prime" Morrison who Lewis won by RTD. Punching power my *ss.

Remember that Lewis got kayoed by McCall and Rahman for being cocky? and beat them soundly when his serious? yeah, the same thing happened against his fight with Holyfield, a fading Holyfield to be exact. He got his anger took over him the first fight but was competitive on the second. A fading Holyfield competitive with a Prime Lewis... Prime Holyfield would absolutely annihilate him