Mike Tysons resume was rubbish in a weak era.

this is the reason i tell people that you cant get the same insight and understanding by looking at the fights on youtube and studying boxrec, that you can by being there for the build up and knowing the trivia relating to it, like the page planting which you mentioned, and all the previous incidents that show you the ebb and flow of his development and decline.

 

Your Lame! Prime Mike kos lewis to canada!

 

Tyson never fought Bowe.

Holyfield was on PEDs when he fought Tyson.

Lewis was just too big for Tyson. Lewis had a weight advantage.

 

When Tyson fought Lewis he was way over the hill, Don King had destroyed his career and robbed him of his money, same when he fought Holyfield. Tyson in his prime, before Don King go hold of him would have beaten anyone! He was that good, his timing was perfection....................

 

recent incident (death in family) and long term (jail) are different things.

 

you seem committed to cast people as tyson fanboys - why so?
thought you were talking about his second stint post jail - that must be obvious to you.

So you mean the douglas loss - that because tyson didnt have longevity mindset. I think you know that already, the evidence is there, streak of top wins, plus one less than stellar loss to end it.

 

the guys Mike fought were not greats, but they were solid champions with good punches. Bonecrusher and Pinklon and Tucker were all solid fighters who just didn't have the motivation to be great fighters. But they had skill.

 

That's all you could muster as a response?

Seriously?

Again, what was the point in making the thread?

You have absolutely no intentions of having a debate.

A super human wrecking machine?

Pathetic.

James always had good ability.

He underachieved.

The passing of his mother gave him huge determination, which again, was never really replicated in any other fight.

Mike was underprepared, he wasn't 100% focused, and the year before he fought James, he was getting hit with shots against Bruno that he hadn't been caught with before.

He was already declining. He wasn't as sharp and his defence wasn't as tight.

It's clear that his personal life was having a negative on his ring career.

There was a noticeable difference in his performances.

You accuse me of being a fanboy, but you're worse than a fanboy. Because you've only made this thread to criticise him. And when someone writes something that you can't counter, you either completely ignore it, or you label them as being biased, which is what you are yourself.

If you read the excerpt from his autobiography that I posted, then tell me if there's anything that you dispute.

If you're not prepared to come back and debate in a sensible manner, then don't even bother replying back to me.

 

Are you seriously going to label everybody as a fanboy who doesn't agree with you?

You're debating like a small child.

Again, Mike wasn't shot when he fought James. But he was already on the decline. Which you'd know if YOU knew anything about his career.

You can't comprehend that everyone's circumstances are different.

James always had the ability, but his weight and his focus often let him down. When his mother died, he put in the work, with huge determination. Which meant that by fight night, he was in shape and motivated with a very good skill set. Whereas Mike had been sleeping with maids and only half heartedly training, which culminated in Greg Page dropping him in sparring.

To summarise: James turned a negative into a positive, whereas Mike couldn't.

It happens.

Just so you don't get confused:

Mike wasn't shot when he faced James.

Mike was faded when he came out of prison.

Mike was a shot fighter when he fought Lennox, Williams and McBride, fighting solely for the money at that point.

I hope this helps.

 

Nonsense. Your love of Hopkin and Ward make you constantly downplay Gennady and his remarkable talents, achievments and accomplishments

Footwork, jab, ring cutting, power, chin, mental strength, and all round skillset (not to mention a 385-5 record) are all among the best the historic division has ever seen putting GGG easily in the argument as the middleweight GOAT

Anyway the thread's about the most over rated heavyweight of all time, the weak minded bully who captured a naive unconnected world's imagination with intimidation and eyebrows, and who got battered from pillar to post from the first jobber who stood up to him.... not the Middleweight GOAT Gennady Golovkin

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