Mike Weaver was only 6 pounds heavier than Walcott when he fought Holmes

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Weaver weighed 202 pounds when he fought Holmes and gave him a tough go. Walcott weighed 196 pounds for Marciano 1. Only a 6 pound difference
     
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  2. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I mean, yeah and he was beaten by a career LHW making his heavyweight debut.

    Holmes is the most absurdly, ridiculously overrated fighter of any weight class. Most have him in the top three, and some claim that is h2h #1. Based on what? His wins over 35 year old e-mail champ Norton, or 13-fight novice Witherspoon? The wins aren't there. If you think Holmes is a top-five heavy, you really need to take a look in the mirror about what your standards are.
     
  3. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Norton was an e mail champ??
     
  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's the phrase they use today. In his day, Norton was called a "board-room champ."
     
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  5. SouthpawsRule

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    I can eat myself up to 220 lbs now, that won’t make me as big as Foreman.
     
  6. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Yeah but Walcott and Weaver were both in fighting shape at these weights
     
  7. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    I've been around Mike Weaver a lot, going back to the 1970s, well before he fought Holmes. I was a little kid when I first saw him and don't remember anything about him but, around the time he fought Holmes, we were the same height. He seemed huge otherwise, but him fighting at 202, 210 makes sense. A lot of very muscular, very lean guys weigh a lot less than you would think.
     
  8. Saintpat

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    Who are your top five?
     
  9. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    On pure accomplishment...

    Ali
    Louis
    Lewis
    Marciano
    Frazier or Foreman

    Head to head, a lot harder as it is all speculative, but maybe

    Lewis
    Ali
    Usyk
    Tyson
    Holyfield or Foreman (depending on the Evan Fields calculation)

    Holmes has neither the big wins to get there on accomplishment, nor to prove the tremendous head to head. And before anyone tries to play the 20 defenses card, or chop down Usyk being on my list, Holmes never unified for fought a #1, so in my book, Usyk has already proven far more.