Mikey Garcia Is Looking Seriously Bulked Up; Vasiliy Lomachenko Fight DEAD.

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  1. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    Get back with me when it happens so we can make an avatar bet. He will embarrass Prograis and Taylor... Different levels.
     
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  2. Bridie mcmahon

    Bridie mcmahon Active Member banned Full Member

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    Will do.
     
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  3. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    I understand the difference between running and movement. There's nothing Lomachenko can do to deter Pacquiao. Again, Lomachenko doesn't pack the brutal counters of Marquez or the defensive wizardry and length and running and clinching tactics of Floyd. He's T-Rex armed and he has never seen the speed, power, and angles of Pacquiao. Pacquiao is a monster in closing the distance and with Lomachenko, he won't have a lot of distance to close.

    I don't even mind if Pac loses to Lomachenko. I just don't see a Lomachenko victory at all. There is no scenario in which I see Lomachenko having his hand raised.
     
  4. T_S_A_R

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    If Spence was at 18% he must have spent his camp playing Xbox. No weight limit boxer is going to into a fight at 18% bodyfat, it's a massive disadavntage and he would be putting himself in danger for the sake of being lazy. What kind of trainer or S&C coach would allow it. In a big fight with millions of dollars on the line?

    I also doubt Spence was as low 7%. Going below 10 has a mental effect which would outweigh any benefit of going so low.
     
  5. 22JM

    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lmfao he just moved up in weight clam your ass , even the broner fight was risky because Garcia is a fomer feather weight, and I'm not a fan boy not close, just hate seeing fighters like Garcia who takes risks get trashed and fighters like Loma who doesn't take risks get cheered up
     
  6. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Broner and risky should never be used in the same sentence.

    Again which fighter bar Spence was he the underdog against?
     
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  7. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    This is correct, people use calipers and think they’re converting that to an accurate body fat percentage. I work with elite athletes, using DXA (the gold standard measurement) there are almost no athletes under 10%. That includes pole vaulters, cyclists, gymnasts etc.
    Guys can look shredded and still be 13-14% body fat. I doubt Spence was much under 10%, and I’d say that Garcia was closer to that 18%.
     
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  8. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Mikey was going up for that fight, he was clearly overweight in the initial training videos (visible gut through clothing). If he got down to 18% as he was going up in weight then he did well. He would’ve been about 25% in that first training video (at least).
     
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  9. Zhuge Liang

    Zhuge Liang Active Member Full Member

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    It is easy for us all to fantasize Loma vs Pacquiao.

    But the question is : is the time schedule is on the fight plan's favor ?

    We all know Loma and his father don't want to fight Pacquiao. And they still have several unachieved target, such as : their main objective 135 title unification and the fight with Tank Davis. Not to mention, there is possibility that Loma might have to face his mandatory challenges in WBC (most likely Haney) and WBO. On the other hand, Pacquiao is getting older and older.

    I do believe that Loma does not mind to face Pacquiao as long as all of his main objectives are cleared and there's no one to fight him. But currently, this is not the situation.
     
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  10. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Yeah you’re probably right about Spence...unlikely he was sub 10% now that I think about it.
     
  11. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    We will just have to agree to disagree on this one.
     
  12. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    So Lomachenko beating Pac coming off of a beat down of Thurman and becoming a champion at welterweight is less impressive than beating Commey/Lopez?

    A shot Pac is still 10X the fighter that Commey/Lopez/Campbell are.

    That's why Lomachenko ducked the fight. Just be real, man. You and I both know that Pac would sleep Lomachenko.
     
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  13. 22JM

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    Agian, Garcia just moved up wait your ass he just fought the best fighter at 147, Loma hasn't fought anyone at that caliber in years
     
  14. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Still avoiding the question kid
     
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  15. 22JM

    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I already answer you old man