Mikey Garcia Is Looking Seriously Bulked Up; Vasiliy Lomachenko Fight DEAD.

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  1. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would maybe of agreed before his Spence fight but I'm not sure this soft,overweight version of Mikey beats Postal even?
    Mikey was a killer in his pomp and I for one hope you're right and that he still has it in him.'re Taylor I just think he's too big,young and hungry for Mikey.
     
  2. Angler Andrew

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    And nor should he.Both Mikey and Lomo don't belong at welterweight.
     
  3. Angler Andrew

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    I'm a Manny fan and yet I think style wise it would suit Lomo as he'd be countering Manny as oppose to chasing him.That said I'd have my heart in my mouth the whole fight as Manny has shown over the years that he's an absolute monster when he's in a real fight.
     
  4. Rock0052

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    So if Mikey did fight Loma, would you have criticised Mikey for playing it safe?

    You're implying that a Loma fight isn't risky for Mikey...just want to make sure that's actually what you're meaning
     
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  5. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Lomachenko doesn't sit back and wait to counter. He presses forward with a probing jab that much slower guys have been able to nail him flush as he's doing so. Lomachenko's shots would not bother Pac at all. Pac KOs Lomachenko easily. Trust me.
     
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  6. Angler Andrew

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    I'm sure he could either to body or head.I know some folk will think we're nuts and bring up Pacs recent KO record but I would say he's always the smaller guy but in this case he wouldn't be.
    Mannys recent resume is as good as anyones.Vargus should of been fighting Kell Brook until GGG came along and Manny schooled him.Crazy how he's gone from semi retirement to no 3 in the division lol.
     
  7. Odins beard

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    By avoiding the initial question.....Garcia is done at 147, PAC kicks his arse as does all the top guys at that weight...hell he loses to Taylor and Rougarou at 140 too.
     
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  8. Zhuge Liang

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    The reason why you see Loma is pressing more and tends to fight on inside in recent years, especially in 135, is because his opponents are taller and have longer reach. It's the basic science of boxing. You don't see Andy Ruiz move around and waiting to counter Joshua.

    However, you won't find Loma fight like that against Pacquiao. Because Loma and Pac are basically the same height and same reach. This is the same reason why Loma is confident when he challenges Garcia and Davis. Loma is a multidimensional fighter who can fight on inside and outside in equal highest of quality.

    You are not wrong that Pacquiao is an expert infighter. But you'd be mistaken to think that Loma will fight toe-to-toe sluggishly against him.
     
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  9. dealt_with

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    In my heart of hearts, I believe that Lomachenko would do to Pac what Pac did to Oscar. I think he should make the fight happen, but I understand why it isn’t happening. I think Campbell would beat Pac as well. Thurman is not an impressive fighter, and what you continuously fail to take into account is that Pac has an advantage being the smaller guy against guys like Thurman, that he would not have against smaller fighters.
     
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  10. kirk

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    Yup.

    I dont get it, to be honest.
     
  11. 22JM

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    Nahh I would've give more credit if he fought cambel....
     
  12. Pakkuman

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    Again, Lomachenko doesn't have the patience or concussive counterpunches of JMM or the pure physicality and dog of Bradley. Both are similarly sized or slightly larger than Pac.

    Lomachenko's workrate and come forward style is tailor made for Pac. Pac is still one of the best offensive fighters in the game. I don't understand why you think Pac isn't going to land when much lesser men like Pedraza, Campbell, and Linares gave him tough work.

    Lomachenko wouldn't be able to handle Pac's power. And then he's got angles and speed to worry about as well.

    Pac would put a serious beating on Lomachenko. And he'd kill Campbell.

    Be real! LOL!!!
     
  13. Pakkuman

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    Pac is still one of the best offensive fighters in the game. And Lomachenko gets hit clean by much lesser men. Do you honestly think that Lomachenko would survive even just one flush shot from Pac?

    Lomachenko ducked the fight and it's not because Pac wouldn't do anything for his legacy.

    :lol:
     
  14. dealt_with

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    Body shots that Pac won’t be able to take.
    You’ve got that the wrong way round, Pac’s come forward in straight lines style is perfect for Lomachenko.
    Pedraza, Campbell and Linares are all longer and more awkward than Pac. Pedraza and Campbell fought as cautious counter punchers, and Linares throws better combinations than Pac.
    Pac has angles against the Margaritos of the world. Against Lomachenko he is the Margaritos of the world. Pac would be the slowest guy that Lomachenko has ever fought.
    You’re living in a dream land, Pac is a name right now. He’s not the guy who was fighting Morales. If he was still that guy then we’d have a discussion, but I still don’t see how prime Pac wouldn’t get sliced up by Lomachenko. There are levels to this, Pac is not and has never been at that level.
     
  15. dealt_with

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    Has Lomachenko been knocked out by one punch? When was the last time Pac knocked someone out with one punch? Has Pac been knocked out by one punch?
    Over and over again you don’t seem to understand that fighters perform relative to their opponent. You’re living in a fantasy land where Pac is still a fast, offensive machine against 135 pound fighters. He’s not that guy anymore, he’s even with big, slow guys.
     
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