Mikkel Kessler vs. Carl Froch II

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Last time, Kessler took Froch's WBC 168lb belt in a close battle.

    Now they each have a different one to feed the kitty: Kessler the WBA ("regular") and Froch the IBF.

    Between them, Kessler and Froch have already participated in three super middleweight unification bouts. Kessler took Marcus Beyer's WBC by knockout to combine it with his WBA, and eventually lost both to longtime WBO champ Joe Calzaghe. Froch, after regaining the WBC as Kessler was stripped due to inactivity with an eye injury, had it yoked to Andre Ward's WBA.

    Since they last met, Kessler is 3-0 (3) with a pit stop at light heavyweight and Froch 4-1 (2).

    At stake along with the hardware is the right to call oneself the #2 super middleweight behind Andre Ward, and perhaps the opportunity for either man to rematch & avenge their loss to Ward for a complete unification. (as usual, nobody really gives a **** about the WBO)
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I had it 115-113 Kessler last time, same as Guido Cavalleri.

    Judges are not yet announced for the rematch.
     
  3. Pimp C

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    I had Froch wining the first fight. I see more of the same as the first but without Froch getting his nose broken. IMO Kessler has slipped more than Froch has and that will be the big difference. I expect a clear UD win for Froch. 8-4 or 9-3.
     
  4. SJS19

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    Froch on points.

    8-4 in rounds in a fight that will seem closer.

    I actually expect Froch to out jab Kessler, and win off of that.
     
  5. jeffjoiner

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    Two closely matched warriors battling it out again. The loser of a close fight usually learns more than the winner. Froch will make an adjustment and take the decision this time.
     
  6. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    I think this one will have a definite winner either by UD or a knockout.
    Going with Froch this time out.
     
  7. Tyler-Durden

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    Frochy is full of confidence this time and I would have picked him by stoppage if Mikkel hadn't that beard of his. :hat
     
  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    See, I think Kessler had been slipping from 2008-2010 (looking his absolute worst ever in '09 against Perdomo and Ward) but has since improved to nearly 2007 form - albeit radically changing his game in the process - after returning from the eye injury and gelling with new trainer Jimmy Montoya.

    Froch was actually his first opponent under Montoya, and they had some kinks to work out in his style...similar to how Wladimir Klitschko and Emanuel Steward wasn't an instant recipe for success, given the loss to Brewster their first time working together. From Bouadla onward (after surgery) Kessler has managed to downplay his fading strengths and showcase the new tricks he's learned, with a more varied offensive arsenal than ever before. His trademark 1-2 isn't what it was in his prime, but he's incorporated hooks, uppercuts, and body shots in a way his previous coaches failed to imagine.

    His defense is subtly different as well, to accommodate the wear of age on his ability to infinitely shell and circle without muscle fatigue setting into his limbs, and needing to break the mold of the high guard to put out shots other than jabs and crosses. I won't say it's necessarily better than it was in his prime, as someone will surely be quick to point out Allan Green dropping him, but it's still effective and it's less stiff in that classic European manner than it was.

    Froch is also in excellent form given how easily he destroyed Bute and Mack. His combination of blunt power and finishing instincts (as outlined here: http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=405072) are second to none in the division. He too has been on an upward bent of late and may be in even better nick than he was 3 years ago.

    Either way, no excuses. Both are in top shape and will give their all.
     
  9. EuroBot

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    Froch via late-ish stoppage, around 9-10 rounds. It would have been a great rematch 3 years ago but I don't think the time off and injuries have helped Kessler. I expected Green to drop him and he did. Kessler is a warrior and deserves a lot of credit for taking this fight in Britain, but it's hard not to see it as a fading former champion cashing himself out.

    I'd be surprised if Kessler wins this one.
     
  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Kessler says on Facebook that Jimmy Montoya arrives Wednesday to begin work.

    That's an eleven week (and change) training camp!

    Froch has already started his!!!


    Warriors. :respect :boxx:boxer
     
  11. Smoggy7188

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    This is gonna sound strange but i think froch wins it on points however i think kessler might stop him with a body shot. I am torn between the two.
     
  12. christo

    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I'm about Kess all day on this one, even in ughland.
    I really do think he's learned a few things w/ montoya
    that have now been routinely assimilated, and those assets
    will be more noticeable against a style like the one Froch
    possesses. For instance, Carl always seems open for a left
    hand when coming in and kessler is throwing that shot better
    than ever. This fight is for the dane to win or lose. He's a better
    fighter than the cocky Brit.
     
  13. MannySteward

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    Kessler will win. Possibly TKO. Froch will try and apply more pressure and walk into a few counters.
     
  14. Arcane

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    I think Froch will stop him late this time around, had the first fight 116-112 Kessler.
     
  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Early odds:

    Froch 2/3
    Kessler 9/5
    Draw 28/1
    Over 9.5 rounds 1/3
    Under 9.5 rounds 9/4

    :think