Mikkel Kessler vs Chris Eubank

Who is harder to hit? Calzaghe or Kessler?

Well lets look at their fight? Calzaghe hit Kessler more often with more accuracy than Kessler hit him.

Eubank landed on Calzaghe, near put him down in the last round. Kessler landed flush shots in the first few rounds in the Calzaghe fight and didn't even stagger Calzaghe.

To say that Kessler is too hard for a guy like Eubank to hit just shows me what you said above is true "I don't know that much about Eubank"

I bet you were one of these people who honestly thought Kessler had a good chance against Joe C too and possibly one that thought Lacy would beat Joe C.

It's BECAUSE we know about Eubank, Reid and Woodhall that established boxing fans picked Calzaghe over Lacy and Kessler, they weren't your average B class fighters, especially Eubank.

 

by using his greater height, keeping his distance, and staying behind his jab. Something that Benn really didn't even try to do.

 

Eubank clear UD. Eubank was damm good. He had ATG type of chin, good power, good skills, fast, tricky, had heart & stamina.

 

Listen, to be succesfull with the overhand right you generally need more speed than the other guy. And not just a notch. Eubank didnt have more speed than Kessler imo.

Kessler is indeed talented with sound fundamentals and I think he could give a prime Eubank the fight of his life.

Look - Kessler is the guy who hadnt lost more than six whole rounds his entire career before facing a stylistically all wrong Joe Calzaghe.

You need to be unorthodox as hell to be able to beat one of the best styles (perfected) around.

 

Since when has Kessler EVER been considered a fast puncher? He's your standard double jab, right cross fighter who has a decent uppercut but not decent enough to put away his tougher opponents.

Tell me what you think Eubank's style is? because I think you've got the impression that he's a crude Andrade type fighter. It leads me to believe you didn't watch the Benn fights, the Collins fights, the Watson fight or even the Calzaghe fight.

Calzaghe, much slicker, better head movement and a better jab (proven, who landed more jabs with more accuracy in their fight) than Kessler, still got hit by Eubank - this was Eubank with 3 weeks notice!!!!!!!!! atsch

Eubank was a power merchant with above average assets in every other statistic, he could jab when he needed too.

You're talking about height but at 5'10, Eubank had the reach of a 6'1 fighter. He had better head movement than Kessler is accustomed too and easily more power than anyone Kessler has faced.

It's ludicrous to say Kessler at this stage of his career, having been beaten by a 35 yr old Calzaghe that was more tested at 25 by Eubank would beat Eubank.

Especially when big flaws that Kessler has play right into Eubank's style. You don't move straight back against Eubank and live to tell about it. He had without doubt, the best overhand right in the game in his era.

 

Is that right?

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Tragic, tragic fight but prime Eubank was dangerous every second of every round and especially when hurt. Prime for prime Eubank would KO this guy, absolutely no doubt in my mind.

 

Height? Go check their respective reaches, I would say Eubank has the same, if not more reach than Kessler.

 

The fight between Eubank and Calzaghe didn't show a prime Eubank nor Calzaghe. Eubank had all the experience that Calzaghe lacked, but were called in late, and was slightly faded.

Alot of people honestly thought that Kessler could beat Calzaghe, and rightfully so. It was a tough match to call, and I thought that Kessler would win it. And why not? Nobody that had been put in front of Kessler gave him trouble and they were all the top ranked fighters of the division. Calzaghe had looked bad on several occations - ie Brewer, Bika and Reid.

I thought that Calzaghe would beat Lacy, but I hadn't expected him to completely shut him down and outbox him.

How well do you know Kessler? By established, you mean english? Since you highlight a fighter like Reid, someone that Kessler would beat 120-108.

 

Kesslers best result is a UD loss to Calzaghe who got taken to the wire by 43 year old Hopkins.

Some of the over-rating and bias on this forum is ridiculous at times. There's plenty of fighters I'd pick to beat prime Eubank but Kessler isn't one of them.

 

A 25 yr old fighter with over 100 amateur fights and 20 odd professional fights isn't in their prime? Well **** me gently, being that everyone now calls Calzaghe shot at 36 - the only performance Calzaghe looked better in than Eubank to that stage was Lacy.

The Reid that Lacy got too? Yeah, Kessler would win 118-110 or 120-108, I won't question that, Reid was a different boxer at that stage

The Reid that "beat" Sven Ottke? That Reid would take Kessler close and likely take him in a 116-114 type decision, that Reid was a slick boxer with good head movement and enduirance.

I've seen Kessler fight vs Mundine, Andrade, Lucas, Beyer and Calzaghe. I've seen Eubank fight near every fight he had that was on TV.

You have already admitted that you do not know much about Eubank - take it from someone who does, Eubank could easily be considered the second best SMW behind Joe C, unless you take RJJ's short stay at 168 to put him in there.

 

You forget that Kessler is a good counter puncher as well, while creating your statements that Eubank was the second coming of SRR.

Kessler has the fundamentals to trouble anybody in the history of SMW bar Joe Calzaghe who had the worst style availiblefor a textbook euro type fighter.

Eubank, on the other hand had extreme physical attributes, power, speed stamina etc. But his style wasnt as perfected as Kesslers.

Anyway - it would be a close call.


BTW - your basing your arguments on how badly Calzaghe was manhandlling Kessler - and you forget the style issue. A who fights B who fights C, you know?!

 

Maybe now he would, but not a few years ago :nono He might have beaten Reid, but not easily.

 

I touched on the style issue. Kessler moves straight back, do you refute this?

What punch is kryptonite to a fighter who moves straight back? The overhand right.

What punch was Eubank's money punch? The overhand right.

Eubank landed his overhand right in almost every fight he had, including the Calzaghe fight.

Kessler is a good fighter, probably the best at SMW now and I expect him to prove that, but he doesn't beat Eubank - no way, no how.

 

I guess we can make case for both fighters.

But to say that Kessler gets beat by one single punch is beyond me. And you seem to forget the speed issue. Speed is key to succes with the overhand right.:deal

 

yes very much so roch and kessler have similar styles, i think eubank by close decision, kessler is very good but chris was great:roll: