Mikkel Kessler vs Chris Eubank

Well **** me gently but as far as I remember, Kessler was never considered a speed boxer and having seem him in his "career defining fights", I can't remember him throwing anything more than a three punch combination in that entire time.

What I do remember is Andrade being able to hustle him straight backwards and walk through his punches.

Andrade doesn't have the punching power nor precision of Eubank, if Kessler fights Eubank the same way he fought Andrade, he will eat that right hand of Eubank.

The same right hand that put an established championship boxer in a coma and ended Benn too.

Kessler has the future to prove himself, but based on their current primes (Kessler vs Andrade, Eubank vs Benn) - Eubank wins.

 

On your last statement I agree entirely.

But Kessler actually threw 6 AND 7 punch combinations in the Andrade fight.


Cheers, Im off.

 

A prime Chris Eubank should be able to outbox and possibly stop Kessler. It would be a very entertaining fight. Of course, this is based upon my perception of Kessler at the current point in his career. He may still go on to win big fights and establish himself as a great of the game. Time will have to tell the tale on that one.

Til then - Eubanks wins this one.

 

Kesslers jab

 

I rather beat you with a bat, than **** you gently.

To put that aside - if you don't think that the version that beat Kessler is better than the version that faced Eubank then I am seriously concerned of your eyesight. Secondly amateur fighting has very little to do with fighting as a pro. Eubank had heaps of experience from many big fights, which saved him in round 1 - experience that Calzaghe clearly lacked as he let Eubank back into the fight.

It is quite clear to me, that you hold Eubank in great regards - and the fact that you have seen every fight that he has fought - establishes this. That is alright, but I am not completely convinced that you take a totally objective approach towards this. Nor am I. I have only seen Eubank in a handful of fights, and I have never seen him against a Kessler type of guy.

Eubank had alot of heart, no doubt, and I am not saying that Eubank couldn't win - I only said I risk saying Kessler by close UD, which is very possible in my opinion, as I rate Kessler pretty highly, and think he has alot of tools going for him. Speed alone doesn't cut it(something Eubank doesn't really have) Mundine couldn't, but he didn't have the experience of Eubank either.

Quite a few guys have "beaten" Ottke - ie Mads Larsen - even without doing a great fight, which was one of Ottkes greatest traits, but it not like Ottke moved around very much.

 

I'm one of the people that believe Kessler will go on to be a long-lasting champ at 168, I believe he would beat Pavlik and Miranda, but Eubank...no. Eubank had a hell of a chin, lead in his right hand and (the determining factor for me) a heckuva lot of pride culminating in a will of steel. If the body could still move, Eubank would fight.

Kessler technically has the drop on him, but I see Eubank alternating backing off with murderous spurts of brawling to take the decision.

 

I loathed Eubank when he was boxing but much like Naseem Hahmed and Benn, UK boxing was Eubank when I was there, I couldn't help but see every Eubank fight because I was a fan of boxing.

Mads Larsen didn't "beat" Sven Ottke to the point where a Sven Ottke decision was an outrage, Robin Reid did.

Mundine doesn't really have speed, he has style which makes him seem like a more legitimate threat than he ever was, Ottke featherfists and all, KO'ed this guy, that should tell you about Mundine's ability under pressure.

Take it from most people who have entered the thread, you're under-estimating Eubank and that is the flaw in your argument.

As for the Joe who beat Eubank vs the Joe who beat Kessler? Tough one.

The Joe that beat Kessler was no longer a power puncher, had less speed and while he had more rounds of championship experience, he also had more arrogance.

The Joe that beat Eubank wouldn't get caught by the uppercuts that the Joe who fought Kessler did, Why? Because he wouldn't have been showboating that early in the fight.

 

Eubank

Kessler's good, but Eubank was a tough nut to crack, extremely unusual style.

 

Just lifted this out of the Brit Forum. Don't know how accurate it is.

Eubank on Kessler

"I watched the guy Mikkel Kessler when I was in Las Vegas in April, and he's ordinary.
"He can't fight going back or counter punch "
"If you consciously know range and angles you shouldn't have a problem with this guy."

 

Kesslers style isnt unlike Michael Watsons, and Watson nearly beat Eubank twice.

Kessler is a better boxer than Watson, bit quicker, and more accurate, Id say Kessler nicks a decision over peak Eubank 115-113, 116-112 maybe...

 

If Eubank can keep Kessler's jab from being a threat, which it always will be against orthodox fighters, then that overhand right he throws could knock Kessler down and out.

But I picked Eubank by decision. Prime Eubank was a specimen at 168, if Kessler can get back on the winning path, take out a few of the newcomers like Bute, Froch and Inkin then perhaps he'll find himself ahead of Eubank.

 

I think there is a fair bit of truth in both sides of the arguments on this thread.
I agree that Eubank would probably have beaten Kessler based on examining their fights, I don't think Kessler has been tested enough yet but don't see it being an easy fight at all, Eubank had a great chin, good power and before the Watson tragedy affected him had a killer instinct too.
Kessler is more predictable, has a good jab and from what I have seen has never been in a real war, which would have been a certainty against Eubank.
How good is his chin?, no answer there as he has never been really tested against a brutal puncher.
I agree that the Calzaghe who fought Kessler was much more ring smart than the one who fought Eubank though, the old Calzaghe would stand and trade even if the fight was tight, this got him in trouble a lot but due to his ego he wuldn't back down even though he perhaps could have won easier by outboxing his opponent, as he has aged his ringsmarts have improved and he has become a slightly different fighter, due to his hands and evolution of ring generalship and fight awareness.
Hard to compare based on their respective fights against Calzaghe as they both fought a fighter who had different strengths at different points of his career imho.

 

Hard to tell. Could be another style wise nightmare for Kessler. As I remember Eubank's fights he was pretty slick too. Something that doesn't suit Kessler well or perhaps one should say didn't suit him well up until the Calzaghe fight. Hopefully he has learned a thing or two about slick fighters. Would really like to see this. How about getting Eubank back in the ring.lol: