Mikkel Kessler vs. Kelly Pavlik right now - PART II

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    No problem. :good

    Yeah, usually if the scheduled distance is 12 rounds it means there is a title on the line (even a bogus minor one), or else it's a final eliminator for one between the top ranked contenders. That was why I brought it up, since there's no reason to believe Pavlik and Kessler would get scheduled for the 12 round distance as neither has a belt (except that bogus one, which Pavlik probably doesn't care about).
     
  2. IntentionalButt

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    I think Lopez is more of a natural SMW than Bouadla, but that's about it. He just surprised people by being more negative than he was on those few Youtube clips, and that probably threw Team Kelly's strategy for a slight loop. He didn't really show any top-notch skills, though.

    How heavily would I favor Alfonso over Mehdi? Eh, not very heavily at all tbh..
     
  3. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    don't they do 12 rounds for emeritus championships? if not, whats the point in having it?
     
  4. IntentionalButt

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    I thought it meant he could bypass the whole ranking system and immediately challenge the current WBC titlist at his leisure (right now it would be a Froch rematch but it could ultimately wind up being Ward instead, if Ward unifies in the tournament final).

    Isn't that how it worked for Vitali Klitschko? He got to emerge from 4 year retirement and immediately challenge for the WBC heavyweight title against Peter without a single tuneup or fight against a top contender to get back in the rankings.

    The only reason Kessler can't exercise his emeritus status right now is because the Super Six is still in progress. He has to let Froch and Ward finish their business, and then his emeritus status gives him first crack at whoever winds up with the WBC belt (and, in a lucky stroke, he'll probably also get to challenge for the WBA belt at the same time since it will be unified although he isn't the WBA #1 contender either).
     
  5. RustBelt

    RustBelt The Pride Of Youngstown Full Member

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    And thats a Good thing, For Pavliks Sake!
     
  6. Predator

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    Kessler late stoppage. Pavik is totally done, I don't know how people can watch him and not see it.
     
  7. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Do you think Kessler will necessarily get first crack if he doesn't fight Bute and Ward wins the tournament? I know Froch has said he believes Kessler deserves first shot at the winner, but I could easily imagine Ward simply vacating the WBC belt and going right for Bute in such a scenario. Hopefully Bute-Kessler gets made and we won't have to speculate about such things.
     
  8. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    you're spot on. yeah, he can challenge when ever he wants, but can't at the moment because of the super six.

    but i thought he could still have a fight scheduled for twelve rounds without having a bogus title on the line. calling him WBC champion emeritus, and it being only a 10 rounder doesn't seem right.

    i'm gonna search the web to see if i can find anything.
     
  9. Hermit

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    You don't think he needed a tune up after being out so long on an injury?
     
  10. IntentionalButt

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    Oh, of course he did. It was wise and warranted; the fact is that he would have been able to do as Vitali did and challenge for the belt straight away coming off the layoff had the Super Six not still been in progress (and the WBC title tied up within it).
     
  11. RustBelt

    RustBelt The Pride Of Youngstown Full Member

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    Thats a Hard Pill to Swallow! I cant see Pavlik getting stopped period! He has a heart of a lion in the Ring!
     
  12. RustBelt

    RustBelt The Pride Of Youngstown Full Member

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    :good Its wise for another fight too!
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    :think Definitely let us know if you do.

    I'm pretty sure - but don't quote me on this - that if that European title hadn't been on the line the other night, Kessler as a non-champ would be relegated to a maximum of 10 rounds just like Pavlik.
     
  14. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Kessler UD. If Kessler is smart hed outbox Kelly, Id still favor slightly Kessler in a toe to toe war, hes bigger, faster, maybe stronger, but that would raise kellys chances. Kessler would outclass Kelly, but not like Bhops and Sergio did. Kessler doesnt have their defense and is a standup guy.
     
  15. assasin

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    can't find much, really. i think you're right though.. you can't have a twelve round fight with that alone.

    i don't take any notice of these "diamond", "emeritus", or "super champion" paper titles.. they're worth nothing. they just seem to make up the rules as they go along.

    :good