Mikkel Kessler...

calzaghe is better than pavlik though and kessler never got knocked out in his defeat

and taylor fighting lacy isnt exactly a huge fight....jeff has nothing left since 2005

 

good fighter

 

I like Kessler, he's one of the best and underrated in his division right now, plus he wasn't afraid to travel to his opponents backyards in the past. BUT he seems kind of stuck now, don't know if it's his fault or his managers or if he gets ducked, well he is in his prime and has (to continue) to fight the best out there.

 

Thanks, will hope he keeps walking the walk then:thumbsup

 

A copy off the subject under my thread on b o x i n g s c e n e named "something is rotten i the state of TeamPalle"

"Calzaghe the champ and Mundine vacated the "regular" title, so now Kessler finds him self "to be dictated" to fight a mandatory to claim his 3. or 4. places at the WBA. Mundine did that for years, but it was his goal to be the regular champ. Surely don't hope it is Kessler goal too?
And only Teampalle is to blame. When Palle stated his "Master plan" it turned out to be a fight against wba #3 for the regular title but for what reason. Just to be the regular champ ?????
If not, why didn't Palle just force the fight against the wba #2 Häussler in the first place, so we didn't have to waste our time with this mandatory for the regular title now??
And Kessler says he wants to fight in US, so why didn't they just take the Miranda fight in the first place??"
What is the "Master plan" - that is the question?

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(Jan(DK): The Master plan is referred to Teampalle, who after turning down the Miranda-fight and before the fight with Sartison was announced, said that they now had a "MASTER PLAN" (witch so far incl. Sartison and Häussler and God knows who?)

 

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I find it funny that many play down his willingness to fight the best of his division. Few has tried to do what Kessler did. He called out every champion at his division. He wasn't hesitant to call out Calzaghe either - an undefeated 20+ time champ of SMW. So he is suddenly a cherry picker, because he wanted a title fight instead of a meaningless fight against a crude MW?

When will people accept that Haussler is a forced mandatory? As it is, no one are interested in fighting him at his own division. In the near future, people will see Sartison as at least a top 10 fighter, and will probably kick Bika, and even a few in the top 5. So because he has ONE bad fight(Haussler), he is now a stay at home fighter, not willing to fight anyone? He beat another undefeated after his first loss. Not many do that either.

Even his mandatories bar Haussler have been top notch.

 

Great fighter

 

I kinda like staying up all night for the big fights....

 

granted lacy is nothing to write home about...but you're picking and choosing what you reply to.

look who kessler's been fighting while taylor was rematching pavlik.

and lacy is still a better option than hausser (sp).

and it's heresay to say calzaghe is better than pavlik....

mayorga beat forrest twice who beat mosley twice who beat oscar twice - who KO'd mayorga....

get the picture?

comparisons in boxing based on who beat who and better than the next guy simply don't work and people should never use them.

 

you're saying exactly what the brits say about calzaghe.

i live in denmark and maybe this will give a good insight into 'how to be a great fighter' for calzaghe fans without the direct attack distorting views.

kessler did fight the best in his division, you're right.

infact he fought (easily) more ranked fighters in SM than calzaghe did leading up to their fight and the calzaghe fight was clearly a fight between the 2 best SM in the world.

but...

this fight only happened and received international recognition COMPLETELY - and by that i mean the networks picked it up, backed the fighters in the states, and gave both champs a very important supporter base outside of europe - because there was no-one left to challenege calzaghe and kessler's dominance.

it's very rare in this day and age that a fighter who is 90% based in europe and fighting on hometurf only (as both were) have an opportunity like both calzaghe and kessler did.

if they didn't have each other at the top of the tree, people wouldn't be talking about either of these fighters as hghly as they do now because they wouldn't have had a legitimate world class fight which was recognised internationally at the time it happened.

everything they did beforehand was foreplay....

in a nutshell and regarding your "cherrypicking" comment :

no, kessler isn't cherrypicking now, mogens palle is doing it for him and he's letting him.

but because kessler lost to calzaghe, mogens palle wants him to get a belt (done - at the expense of the miranda fight which, if he had won, would have washed away the calzaghe loss and gained him momentum in the US).

so now kessler is defending his 'title', which in effect means little outside of europe unless mogens palle intends to use that as a platform to get fights with profile up and comers for a launch into the US...

but kessler, despite losing to calzaghe, got a lot of rep for his performance in that fight.

the same way hatton did when he beat tszyu and the same way calzaghe did when he beat lacy.

that's a position of luxury and any fighter who doesn't want to use that opportunity and foothold in the US market - and who wants to keep calling out the best in the world - is bullshitting the public.

that last comment wasn't directed at kessler inparticularly, but mogens palle was quoted in 'extrabladet' (danish newspaper) as saying :

"miranda is not in kessler's league".

what he meant to say was - he's too dangerous and doesn't have a belt.

so yes, palle is cherry-picking on kessler's behalf.

 

I agree on every thing your wrote. Sartison was a very good fighter and time will tell.

Questions are:

Why didn't the take the Miranda fight in the first place, when Kessler so clearly stated, that he wants to fight in the US?
Why did they prefer a fight for the "regular" WBA title instead of a US televised Miranda-fight?
When Teampalle was "Forced" to take a mandatory fight against Häussler - why did the take the fight?. They could have say hell no!!

When the said yes to the mandatory, they also claimed - "the regular title of WBA 168 is impotent to Teampalle and Kessler" And thats freak me up.
Kessler stats, "I wants to be the best in the world, i wants to win all the 4 belts" You don't do that by taking on fights for the WBA #3 or #4 (Calzaghe the champ and Mundine #2)

So what is going on?. I am afraid, that Mogens Palle make more money, when Kessler's fights in front of 5000 spectators at the Brøndby Hallen, instead of Kessler fighting against the "big boys in US" :yikes

 

i'm a big fan. Calzaghe won a close fight, but make that fight on neutral ground and it just might be enough to tip the scales Kessler's way. Kessler was doing very well early in the fight but Calzaghe outfoxed him and Kessler lost it mentally. Anyways Kessler still has many years ahead of him and can build a great legacy. Not fighting Miranda was a mistake.

also i can't believe Haussler is a mandatory challenger. WTF. Haussler sucks

 

Miranda is not dangerous, unless you are a B- level fighter. However, he is hugely hyped in the USA, even now, after he got KOed by both Pavlik and Arthur clearly. Kessler, at his stage of his career, after fighting tough mandatory challengers, unifying titles, fighting Calzaghe and coming back with a decent win against Sartison should not worry about titles any more, because he's payed his dues and proved he was better than a top world class fighter, in every aspect. He needs to chase big fights or fights that will get him big fights. Miranda would have been such a fight...Haussler or the WBA title mean nothing at this stage, because no big name will ever fight Kessler to win the WBA 168 lbs title.

 

perfect. well done.