military training

im currently in the Marine Corps. physically bootcamp is easy compared to the pt we do after you get out of bootcamp. youll do alot of running and circuit courses along with what we call combat conditioning which where your running with a combat load or dragging a buddy from point a to point b. for punishment we did plenty of pushups and as someone mentioned before we did a max set of pullups everytime we went to the rest room. when i joined i was only doing maybe 10 or so pullups now i can do 35 max set. alot of the DI's and later on in the fleet Sgts and above have done some kind sport so we implement all those training techniques into our daily pt. keep in mind ive done amatuer boxing sonce i was 12 so certain aspects are easy while others are not when it comes to physical conditioning

 

In Marines. Did enlisted bootcamp and OCS. Neither is designed to make you stronger or get you in shape. It is just something that happens. The exercising we do once getting to duty station gets you in shape. Although ocs was very physical. We train with the British marines based off of their pt curriculum

 

Semper Fi

 

Do the marines do their own OCS are do they do it with navy officer candidates too in Rhode Island?

could you give me a general idea of base conditioning PT scores you should have before you start OCS to make it easier for someone going to the navy OCS as far as pushups, situps and 2 mile run times? (i know its 1.5 mile for navy PT but I try to keep my 1.5 mile pace for 2 miles to get ahead of where I should be)

Im fat now and may or may not be going to OCS, I wont know if Im selected until probably May ish and who knows it could be this fall or later if I do go but I want to be in great shape so I would be ready

 

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Marines do their own at Quantico.

 

I did infantry training, it was brilliant but the para's are something else. Any para has to be a tough ****er mentally and physically - fact. Resepct to them,.

 

As stated, we train in Quantico for OCS. However, if you go to Navy OCS, you will be trained be Marine Drill instructors straight out of Parris Island, and they are possessed, ask Riddick Bowe.(quit)

Anyway, For Marine OCS I went with a score of 281 and struggled a little. See the thing is, no matter how good of shape you are in, your body is going to crash there and its going to be really hard based off that. Most guys went doing 20 pullups but throughout training never got passed 15-17. I dropped to 19. My runtime is what took a hit. I went running 21min 3 mile, but left running 24.

To more specifically give you advice:
15 pullups
100 crunches
22 min 3/mile

this is what i would recommend striving for.

Pullups: I got better by hanging a pullup bar in my bathroom door and when ever i walked thru that door i had to do max set. It didnt matter what time it was or why i had to go thru that door and my max set had a minimum of 8. you can play around with it as well. Sometimes i would change it i.e. 3 sets of 4 but really slow. Even though you dont have to do pullups for the test, do them anyway. Marines love these; Dont forget, you are trained by Marines. YOU WILL BE DOING THEM.

crunches: just work your abs and practice them. this is moreso a technique thing for me. you all do situps so just do sit ups to practice your form but do other ab xercises to train them

Run: I hate it with a passion, but its really mind over matter. Ill be honest, i dont train like i should on my run, in fact i never run until time for a PFT. The only reason i pass it is because i passed it before and i know that i can do it. (same for my pullups i never practice them but i have the mentally that if i did 20 once, it is unacceptable to not do 20 again)
But preparing for OCS, MWF=3 mile run; T TH= .05mile-1mile run followed by 6 laps on a track(1.5m) jog long part, sprint curve. end it with the 05mile-1mile run relaxed pace.

Build yourself up to that if you cant do it and hydrate constantly. The easiest thing to do is cheat yourself and take it too easy and convince yourself that you are just building yourself up. When you are done stretch and ice your shins.

You need to lift weights too. I cant remember if i did it afterwards or before but if you asked me now i would say do before, then rest for about 30-45 mins before your run. Until you get better, you could split up the work out and save your weight for a later time and run first thing in the morning. Need discipline to do this. REMEMBER everyones body is different. I am by no means an athletic superstar but this is what worked for me and I did this coming off of enlisted recruiting duty, where PT is nonexisting.

As far as pushups, just do them wide and normal. SLOWLY. Put a shoe directly under your chest and when you go down, your chest needs to touch that shoe. AT Navy OCS they are going to have you pair up and that shoe will be your partners fist. If you dont touch it, it wont count. Get to the point where you can do 70 comfortably. A Marine would strive for a 100, and then go past that for fun. Thats just the mentally, SOOO being that you will be trained by Marines......But you will be ok if you can do 70(normal hand distance).

I am back on recruiting duty now. Was an enlisted recruiter in 2005, now i recruit for officers(OSO)(select is the better word because we dont recruit officers) But if i have a candidate, that cant do at least 12 pullups and run at least 22 mins, I wont let him go to OCS. But i also gauge it off of the difference. For example, if he does 20 PU but a 23:30 run, I will let him go but i will be on his ass about it. If he is doing a 24 min run, he cannot go PERIOD because his run time will drop at OCS and he will be kicked out.

Why do you want to go to the Navy if you dont mind my asking.

 

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If you want an idea of the PT standards, google OPNAV INSTRUCTION 6110.1H, possibly 1G if they made a change to the instruction( which I think they have) . I think it's been updated since they've started making changes to the PT standards in the Navy. It'll tell you straight up what the standards are and you'd probably do well to work yourself up into the Good High or Excellent low category and you'll more than likely coast through the physical part of OCS.

 

Been through it. Not much there.

-- Regular distance runs of 2-4 miles
-- Brisks walks EVERYWHERE
-- Pull ups, push ups, sit ups.
-- Jumping jacks for coordination/cardio/cool downs
-- Stretching

If anything boot camp is just a meat grinder to weed out the worst of the worst. Running in inappropriate footwear, ballistic stretching, and no individual pacing. Most guys, who gain a love of fitness, get in better shape AFTER boot camp when they have more control of their regimen. I did.

A week on the Internet and 3 months of dedication will probably serve you far better than anything you learn from military boot camp. All the gains, less of the injury.

 

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Wow thanks for all the detail, I am reapplying for the CEC (civil engineer corps). Applied last spring and wasnt selected for the september board. So I had to reinterview with the CEC accessions officer and we are resubmitting my package for the April board (assuming their arent delays and all of that)


I did my PRT nearly a year ago and passed it but it was pretty low and if I had to take it today, I honestly wouldnt pass it so I need to get back in shape in the event that I do get selected and do end up going.

I have been working on pullups but that is a good point, that they will likely be doing those all the time at navy OCS even if it isnt on the navy PRT test since the drill instructors are marines and love the pull ups. So that is great information because I might have neglected to focus on them as much.

 

Yea if you train as if you were going to the Marines then you will do well at OCS but remember we don't care about hoe big or strong u are. Heart will get you pretty far and if you have heart then u will want to be there and u will put forth your best effort.

Remember it is a privilege to be an officer an you always have to lead from te front. If you know u wouldnt pass the prt now them u need to be putting in those miles. Its hard but if you really want it, you will make it happen. Failure will no be an option. Oh yea. The other guy was spot on about getting sick. I recommend that every time you go to the chow hall, eat as many oranges as u can and try to stay away from people. U do not want to get sick

 

I'm sure the Marine Corps has standards for this as well but I know in the Army, they love to throw us in the pool. CWST is a *****, especially with BDUs, boots, a rifle, and your pistol belt with shoulder straps(forgot what we called it).

But hey, you'll learn that your pants can turn into the best life preserver possible. :rofl

 

Unless you're a woman. I have a department head who is a big Idaho ginger girl. Seriously, SERIOUSLY embarassing watching her waddle down the passageways of my ship since she's so ****ing big and nothing is ever done despite her clearly being out of standards. I've never seen a fat Marine Officer. Plenty of Chair Force fatties, but never Marines.