Mindbreaker for the ranking purists on here...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Robney, Oct 23, 2019.


Who is the 140 champ after this weekend?

Poll closed Oct 28, 2019.

  1. Prograis/Taylor winner

    32 vote(s)
    91.4%

  2. Mickey Garcia

    1 vote(s)
    2.9%

  3. Nobody

    2 vote(s)
    5.7%

  4. Someone else (please state who)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    After Prograis vs Taylor this weekend, who is the 140 division's champion?

    option 1) The Prograis/Taylor winner.
    - Would be the WBSS, GBP/Ring Magazine, IBF, WBA and WBC "Diamond" champion.
    option 2) Mickey Garcia.
    - Current "Lineal" champion, whatever that matters.
    option 3) Nobody.
    - Maybe you feel that the current WBC and WBO champion Ramirez should be conquered first.
    option 4) Someone else.
    - Or maybe you feel Ramirez is already the champ. Or don't agree with Garcia's lineal claim over Crawford.
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    Last edited: Oct 25, 2019
    Robney, Oct 23, 2019
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  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Quite possibly the winner of Prograis Taylor, but for me it'll be the winner of them and Ramirez.

    So fine with either option but I got no one just yet
     
    George Crowcroft, Oct 23, 2019
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  3. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How about the winner of Prograis - Taylor vs Ramirez?
     
    ShovelHook, Oct 23, 2019
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  4. minemax

    minemax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mikey Garcia's last two fights were at 135 and 147. He shouldn't be considered a 140 champion at this point.
     
    minemax, Oct 23, 2019
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  5. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I think the winner of Kely/Pograis can beat Garcia, he`s pretty limited.
     
    mark ant, Oct 23, 2019
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  6. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    I think it's a toss up, but that's not really the point here. The division's champion isn't always the best in the division anyway, just the guy who's holding the championship at that point in time.
     
    Robney, Oct 23, 2019
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  7. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Robney, Oct 23, 2019
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  8. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ramirez is in the mix.
     
    ellerbe, Oct 23, 2019
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  9. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The Prograis/Taylor winner. Mikey Garcia shouldn't even be an option. I think Ramirez has a claim to be number 3, but he ain't in front of Prograis or Taylor IMO.
     
    northpaw, Oct 23, 2019
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  10. DanielDimov

    DanielDimov Jabbing all night Full Member

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    Garcia lost a little his supporters on here when he got dominated by Spence.
     
    DanielDimov, Oct 23, 2019
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  11. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    i go with this
     
    Dance84, Oct 23, 2019
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  12. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Prograis/Taylor winner as numero uno with Ramirez the next worthy challenger.

    However even after their fight I’d have each one of Prograis/Taylor as 1&2 in the division and Ramirez as number 3.

    Garcia is too busy avoiding dieting to be taken seriously at 140.
     
    Odins beard, Oct 23, 2019
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  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Ramirez 25-0

    He has 2 belts

    Best wins

    Hooker
    Zepeda (a fight many feel JCR lost)
    Orozco
    Imam
    Mike Reed

    Rougarou 24-0

    Best wins

    Indongo
    Relikh
    Flanagan
    Joel Diaz Jr.
    Velasco

    Taylor 15-0

    Postol
    Baranchyk
    Vasquez
    Martin
    Davies

    Both JCR and Rougarou have had 10 and 9 fights more respectively than Taylor but Taylor's resume>>Rougarou's IMO

    Postol>>Indongo
    Baranchyk>>Relikh
    Vasquez>>Flangan
    Martin>>Diaz Jr.
    Davies>>Velasco

    Or

    Postol>>Indongo
    Baranchyk<<Relikh
    Vasquez<<Flanagan
    Martin>>Diaz Jr
    Davies>>Velasco

    Either way I think Taylor edges it and personally I don't think Flanagan is better than Vasquez and I think Baranchyk KO's Relikh who is soft downstairs.

    I like and rate all three of them but the winner of Taylor vs Rougarou is #1
     
    Serge, Oct 23, 2019
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  14. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Still, I would have thought at least a couple of the lineal supremacist crowd would have voted for him. Because that's their thing, lineal above all, right?!
     
    Robney, Oct 24, 2019
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  15. DanielDimov

    DanielDimov Jabbing all night Full Member

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    Once the boat starts to sink, everyone jumps out of it
     
    DanielDimov, Oct 24, 2019
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