the discussion just strayed so far out of the topic, but anyway good luck to my man miranda on his comeback at SMW.
:good - Miranda has the right heart and desires. But I think he will get it rough at SMW. That division is even better than MW.
I'd like to see him make something of himself. He has the big punch, and I think he's got heart. And he can still improve. Time will tell.
Calzag and Kess are way more skilled than Miranda, but MIranda is a couple notches above Bika, hits harder and has quicker hands, plus 168 will b nice 4 him
....and a couple of notches below lacy, eubank and reid. it remains to be seen if he can even reach the heights of the likes of brewer and mitchell in this division. kessler and calzaghe would batter him, badly.
b) Araham is STILL undefeated c) Gibbs had lost to edouard by ko4. Daniel Edouard is currently a light middleweight. d) Allan Green is NOT a contender at SuperMiddle.
well after that shot gibbs took from miranda im not surprised hes wrecked. and abraham may be undefeated according to record, but none of you guys are gonna try and lead me to believe miranda lost that fight.
uh hello, culchain said miranda should have been dq'ed against abraham for deliberate fouling yet the only thing deliberate was one headbutt. the lowblows were not intentional, they were body shots that barely hit the waist line and abraham would make himself move down or move mirandas shots with his arms so the ref could deduct a point. Abraham knew the ref was gonna dock points thats why he did that ****. And then he said miranda does not belong in the top level. that is just ridiculous considering the competition miranda went through already. I then asked who else fought that kind of competition and his answer was pavlik. read my other post comparing zertuche and mckart to gibbs, green, eastman, and abraham and you can see what nonsense that is. He doesnt have an answer to my question because honeslty even the elite guys dont go through competition like that. He belongs in the top level and he will be back and you mofos will definetly hear from me when he does.
this is coming from a guy who said green has no power in his shots. that tells you something about dane right there and his knowledge of boxing.
OH YEAH, ALI'S JAW WAS NOT BROKEN IN TWO PLACES: CHECK THIS OUT, WHAT NOW *****! CHECK THIS LINK OUT http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.webgalleria.com/misc1_files/95aKN.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.webgalleria.com/misc1.html&h=216&w=160&sz=23&hl=en&start=9&tbnid=ToPMc97WWwsELM:&tbnh=107&tbnw=79&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dali%2Bxray%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-USfficial%26sa%3DG 5TH PICTURE DOWN - SIGNED AUTOGRAPHED XRAY OF ALI'S BROKEN JAW YOU MOTHER****ER WHAT! NOW YOU WANT TO TELL ME I MAKE **** UP? WHOS THE ****ING KNOW ALL NOW *****!
cmon dane lets see you back this twat up now. You gonna back someone up who says i make **** up yet the proof is in the pudding. Why am i even having a discussion with someone who calls me a liar when i say Abraham had his jaw broke in 2 places and Ali did not. He called me a liar yet look at the X-ray. Slayed And on top of that - expect Abraham to be protected for the rest of career and never make any type of noise again. cause if he fights someone with a pulse - guess what - career over. As if it hasnt been already.
The calzaghe vs manfredo stoppage was bs but calzaghe was all over him and manfredo had done nothing the entire time so it wasn't like he was gnna win. In regards to miranda he is a good fighter but would get owned badly by calzaghe or kessler, i would like to see him and lacy fight as there would be fireworks.
I already responded to you on this. it didnt matter about the judges that fight - they were gonna have it for abraham no matter what. I scored the fight for miranda without the bull**** lowblows. Even though if this fight would have happened in the states Miranda would have won by KO which is what the outcome should have been. They gave Abraham too many breaks in the fight for no reason other than to screw the momentum out of miranda. And for you to not call that fight a farce is clearly pro abraham bias. And that goes for anyone else. I stay objective no matter if it is my boy miranda - he won that fight and it is pretty clear. You on the other hand saying abraham won show either a hatred for miranda, a bias for abraham, or just to argue with me. I remember the day after that fight the shitstorm on this board about it. Any knowledgeable boxing fan would have conlcuded that: a: miradna broke his jaw with a punch - thus warranting a TKO b: the unecessary breaks in the fight to check out his jaw were clearly there to screw the momemtum out of miranda to give abraham a rest c: the low blows were not low blows And after that whole farce of a fight in germany - miranda was the one who was getting geared up for his title shot with bigger money fights and national exposure on HBO. They clearly saw him the winner and better fighter. and in the mean time, abraham was in the hospital with a serious injury that should have never been let to go on that far. now his career is screwed and you all will see. when you break bones like that they do not heal right - it will get broke again. Or, he will just fight nobodies like he has been doing. Or he might just fade away into nothingess which it appears is where his career is heading. That an answer enough for ya? Oh btw, i love how you said I made that **** up with Ali's jaw being broke in one place. Like I would say anything here without knowing what the **** I am talking about. You didnt even bother to look it up, you just called me a liar outright. That tells me that your judgement is clouded by your pride of trying to prove me wrong.
hey calzaghe and kessler are great fighters im fans of both. Doesnt mean miranda woulndt have a punchers chance or any chance for that matter. the boy has got power and sometimes thats all you need. Ask mayorga. I would still like to see him get a shot and I believe he will.