Miranda vs Abraham II teaser

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Pantera2000, May 20, 2008.


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  1. Andreikov

    Andreikov Member Full Member

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    What are you talking about, Miranda was robbed !
     
    Andreikov, May 21, 2008
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  2. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Which one was questionable?

    The intentional headbutt point deduction?
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    The first low blow point deduction after several warnings? (in fact, I'm arguing with this)
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    The 2nd low blow point deduction?
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    The 3rd low blow point deduction? Well, I'm arguing with that as well
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    Altogether my card is 114-111 with 3 legitimate point deductions (the double on the intentional headbutt and one low blow). If I count all deductions in, it would be 114-109. I've rescored it several times. 6-6 + 3 deductions every time.
     
    BigBone, May 21, 2008
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  3. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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  4. Pantera2000

    Pantera2000 9 lives Full Member

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    If a fighter was deducted a point for each shot on the beltline then we would have a lot of DQs in boxing. Not once did he hit Arthur 'below' the belt (like in the nuts). Maybe you dont watch boxing often, but shots like that happen a dozen times a fight, usually without even a friendly warning.

    Now the headbutt was even going to be left at a warning if Arthur didnt go crying to his bench. Watch the fight, Neumann said 'Watch the heads' and al1 ready to resume action until Abraham walked away. I am OK with this deduction though, it was still a stupid move by Edison.

    Now, if I made a video for each clinch, rabbit punch and holding of the ropes that Abraham did, well I would have to quit my full time job! :good

    EDIT: Sorry, I just saw you also disagree with 2 of the low blow calls. So I guess you do indeed watch your share of boxing! :D
     
    Pantera2000, May 21, 2008
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  5. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I thought Neumann did a very poor job altogether, but people need to realise that not all deductions were wrong. After SEVERAL warnings, you should lose a point even if your punch doesn't skyrocket your opponents' nuts up to the stratosphere...
     
    BigBone, May 21, 2008
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  6. Pantera2000

    Pantera2000 9 lives Full Member

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    I am OK with that. But where were the warnings on Abraham for holding and hitting, clinching, rabbit punching, holding the ropes?? Why was he not warned one time? Biased as hell I tell ya.
     
    Pantera2000, May 21, 2008
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  7. Pantera2000

    Pantera2000 9 lives Full Member

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    Just one example of many. Watch 10 seconds left in round 1 (about 40 seconds into the clip). Abraham is clinching and sees a clean shot (rabbit punch) at the back of Pantera's head. He does it twice as Neuman comes in to seperate them. But where is the warning??? I can't really blame Miranda for giving the headbutt after much of this and clinching without warning. He admits it was wrong, but was trying to send a message to Arthur to get the **** off him....

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    Pantera2000, May 21, 2008
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  8. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Look closer. He was just trying to read the billboard on Abraham's back.
     
    Hermit, May 21, 2008
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  9. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    I look forward to this fight. This will be another war. I like both fighters inside the ring, and I wish them all the best on both the fight night and from then on.
     
    DanePugilist, May 21, 2008
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  10. ferocious

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    Thing is that Abraham always wear his trunks very low. Against Miranda the beltline was clearly under the bellybutton.. It's not like in America where the fighter's beltline is near the armpit.... Because of that the punches were cleary low blows. If you can't see this you should stop watch boxing. You're complaining about the judge and you're right: In America a good judge would have disqualified Miranda. I've never seen such a dirty fighter before...
     
    ferocious, May 21, 2008
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  11. KilltheKing

    KilltheKing Overthrower Full Member

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    LMAO .. you're out of your mind, man ... in America we would have told Abraham to be a man and stop acting. He was bending over with his arms covering down to his navel and the punches still were borderline clean ... these inadvertant punches were an example of one man trying to fight a covering opponent and land cleanly to a six inch opening while the other pleaded for protection as he bobbed up and down, moved backwards, and was constantly running from his opponent ... I suppose Miranda could have just stopped on one side of the ring, laid against the ropes, and stuck his tongue out at the retreating Abraham across the ring and made faces for twelve rounds but figured some people had paid for a fight not merely for a rigged decision.
     
    KilltheKing, May 21, 2008
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  12. Pantera2000

    Pantera2000 9 lives Full Member

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    :patsch You have offically posted 53 times too many! :lol:
     
    Pantera2000, May 21, 2008
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  13. Pantera2000

    Pantera2000 9 lives Full Member

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    :lol: Sure looks that way.
    The ink tatoo is not allowed in the Hard Rock. It wont do much good anyway when he is laying flat on his back!
     
    Pantera2000, May 21, 2008
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  14. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    Then I think you should tell that to your american mate Bhop... :rofl
     
    Serenata, May 21, 2008
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  15. cardstars

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    I can't wait for this fight!
     
    cardstars, May 21, 2008
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