Miranda vs Abraham II teaser

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Pantera2000, May 20, 2008.


  1. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Very biased... absolutely! But I didn't want to convince you in the first place, but those who are just shouting Germany! (= definitely controversial) which is as silly as shouting that USA commissions are biased, based on one fight (Marquez-Jaca). This fight is a legend among those who never cared to watch it, and I just want to make it clear that it was a close fight (could've gone either way) with SOME legitimate deductions = no controversial decision. They shouldn't mix the biased incapability of Neumann with the cards or the legitimate penalties, that's all...

    And commercials shouldn't indicate that it was a controversial decision. Because it wasn't, even if Mr. Sauerland has a very good relationship with the Austrian Boxing Federation. (The IBF delegated the judges and the referee by the way - and Randy Neumann mosty refereed in the USA sinse he's a US referee).
     
  2. ferocious

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    After the fight, when Miranda get his ass kicked again for the third time in his life, we will talk again... maybe you can suck mirandas ugly **** after the fight, because he will be very sad... :lol:
     
  3. dukestreet

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    cant wait for this one and although it will be a very hard ask i can see miranda stopping abraham
     
  4. Pantera2000

    Pantera2000 9 lives Full Member

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    The commercial completely reflects the opinion of almost every boxing 'professional' in North America. I showed you some scores and the others are similar. Wilfred isn't just close with his commission, he ownes it (no play on words here, it belongs to him)! And yes the IBF picks the judges/refs (for sanction fights only). . But they are very influenced by Sauerland (as the corruption between them as been documented).
     
  5. Executioner

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    i can't wait for this fight.

    **** pavlik vs lockett
     
  6. Azriel

    Azriel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don<t know what point you are trying to make because the Ref DID warn B-hop to stop complaining. But hey, you probably didn't even watch the fight.:patsch
     
  7. BigBone

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    C'mon... seemingly you can look behind the scenes a little bit... do I have to remind you that EVERY major promotional company has influence on the local commission and on the organizations? It's (unfortunately) part of the game everywhere as everyone want to protect their interests. Some have bigger, others have smaller influence, but at the end of the day, you can't argue with GBP having an influence on the NSAC and all the organizations (and The Ring), Warren on the BBBoC and the WBO, Universum on German commission and the WBO, Teiken on the Japanese Commission etc. etc... the 'help' to select the judges and the referee is common in professional boxing, and if Warriors doesn't have any influence on the local commission or the organizations, that&#8217;s too bad (it's an unfair sport on the business side) and that's a disadvantage versus the competition - I don't think that is their best interest...
     
  8. Pantera2000

    Pantera2000 9 lives Full Member

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    True. But Sauerland IS his own commission. Kinda makes it a little easier to get away with whatever you want.
     
  9. BigBone

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    Is he the president of the IBF or what did he do differently than any other promoter with influential power when he contacted the IBF? What did he do to Randy Neumann, a seemingly respected referee in the USA before the fight, or to Larry Hazzard (USA), Dave Parris (GBR) or Raffaele Argiolas (ITA), neither from the Austrian Boxing Commission?
     
  10. KilltheKing

    KilltheKing Overthrower Full Member

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    Nah, you trust ATGs .. poseurs get a different scrutiny
     
  11. KilltheKing

    KilltheKing Overthrower Full Member

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    What kind of cocks do you find especially attractive .. is there a specific criteria you use to differentiate?
     
  12. Hermit

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    Commericals are only meant to sell tickets anyhow. Not like truth in advertising is a real concept anyhow. :rofl
     
  13. Hermit

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    I have a copy of the fight in which you can definetly hear the ref state Abrahams jaw is broken, yet he didnt' stop it? Take EVERYTHING else away and this just stinks. I don't care if he DQ's Miranda or anything else, he should have stopped it for Abraham's sake. That is my problem with him.
     
  14. Pantera2000

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    And in the copy you also see the IBF rep tell Randy Neuman that the Abraham corner wants to stop the fight. This is after the docter tell Neuman to stop the fight.

    Why does Randy Neuman have to wait to hear what Wilfred Sauerland (the promoter) wants to do? And when Wilfred demands to Randy to let the fight continue, how the hell does a ref listen to a spectator in the audience and ignore the people that matter in the ring/ringside?

    Show me one time in America that a doctor tells the ref to stop the fight and it continues, especially one that a ref asks the fighter and he clearly says 'NO'.