Miranda vs Kessler - Dont count Montreal out!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Pantera2000, Mar 24, 2008.


  1. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    He's not crap, he's just not very good and he's fighting horrible competition at the moment, even though he wanted Wright.

    The SMW division is a hell of a lot stronger, if you can't see that then I don't know what to tell you.

    Any division where a guy like Pavlik can become the undisputed champ is a pretty low calibre division compared to some others.
     
  2. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    Fair enough, but then why bring the racist aspect - surely you can't know if they just fancied Klitchko, or just disliked LL because he turned his back on Canada or whatever.

    I myself, dont care about the color of the skin, but I hate when people are cocky - like ie Mayweather - maybe they are the same. Maybe they hate pressure fighters and prefer technical skills. Maybe they are racists. Who knows, but generalization is chewing over too much, especially if you are part of the ones you are aiming at(being a white Montrealian).
     
  3. Quik

    Quik Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He is always talking **** about the montreal boxing scene don't pay attention ...
     
  4. Maxime

    Maxime Sweet Science Full Member

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    Nice personal attack there buddy! :good
     
  5. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    what are you smoking? everyone knows the MW division is ****
     
  6. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Not the bums that I have been debating with over everyday.
     
  7. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    lol just ask them whats their top5

    noone can answer that question without recognizing the utter crap of the division.
     
  8. Fightfan of Mtl

    Fightfan of Mtl Bad Intentions Full Member

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    are the one who have a probleme with people that are not like you, probablly because your don't know anything else than your pitty little miserable life.

    Montreal is one of the most cosmopolitan cites in the world, a place where anybody can live in peace, where you can find people from every part of the world living side by side in harmony.

    Or maybe, you are just a moron that likes to talk **** and can't measure the impact of the slime you are spreading. I suggest that if you feel Montreal is racist, you should put your sorry ass on a plane and travel just a little bit and maybe then, you will reconsider saying stupid things about were you live.

    I guess a good thing for you would be to move to
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    and leave those pages for adults who can think.

    Just knowing you live in my city makes me puke......
     
  9. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Yeah. Tis a Twain thing. ;) But they are awake now, bashing 160.
     
  10. Sebastien

    Sebastien Active Member Full Member

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    You guys are really emotional about these things... unbelievable.

    Have you spoken to many black guys from the city you call the most cosmopolitan in the world, see how they feel about it? "Living side by side in harmony"... I've you ever taken the subway? Have you noticed how "generally" whites hang with whites and blacks with blacks. There's no overt hostility, but there are subtle divisions. Now go at the barber shop and ask people what they think about this.

    See I have a very good friend who happens to be black. I can say he's my only "black friend". Our friendship went through a process. At first he was friendly and I was, but we were not close. So he'd act and say things a certain way and I'd do the same. It was civil. But then he realized that I had read some bios of key African American figures and that I had thought about some of these issues. Then gradually he and I opened up and we really talked, I mean talk about real experience. And when you do that, you realize that Montreal is not experienced the same way by all. Now that might not be evident to those who haven't had access to these stories. But most black people living in North America will be able to confirm this. Notice how people leave seats beside black guys empty. Notice how the police asks a black guy why he's standing there on a street corner (never happened to me as a white guy). You think race is a buried issue you are wrong man. Its only buried under the appearances. But in the barber shops it is still alive and well.

    Some of you guys should watch Obama's speech on the issue of racism. It is more subtle than you'd think at first.

    I'm not saying I'm necessarily right, but I've given my interpretation of a fact, i.e. of the fact that the vast majority of people at various pubs I've been were cheering for the white guy. So I notice an empirical regularity, and I give ya'll an interpretation.
     
  11. scorpy

    scorpy Veni, Vidi, Vici Full Member

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    I also think that Montreal would be pro-Kessler but not anti-Miranda. Boxing fans in Montreal know Kessler because he fought (and destroyed) Lucas. And they mostly know about Miranda for the "feud" he had with Pascal. But Pascal is not that popular in Montreal. Many feels he is too cocky. All in all, if the Montreal crowd were pro-kessler, it would have nothing to do with being pro-european or pro-white. Some of the fans favorites over here are black boxers.
     
  12. Fightfan of Mtl

    Fightfan of Mtl Bad Intentions Full Member

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    Listen man, you base your knowledge on having one black friend and Obama's speech. Please follow my advice and open your mind, I know that when your are a minority you can sometimes feel apart, but try the big picture....

    Montreal is not in the U.S.A., where I know they still have a huge issu on racism. That's why, instead of saying huge things about such a subject without knowing what the hell your are talking about, plus dissing your own, like attacking Maxime on a personnal level to prove yourself (that does'nt make you a better man) you should educate yourself and if you can't travel, well, read a bit about the world we live in. Wars, genocides, deportation etc.........

    All this to say you may not be a bad guy, but be carefull when it comes time to communicate with others. You may do more dammage than you think without purpuse.

    I still want to puke knowing I can be associated with you being white and from Montreal.


    Peace!
     
  13. Sebastien

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    I guarantee you that you wouldn't be talking tough like that if we'd be having that discussion in person.

    Now, you have no clue about my level of education and more importantly, about what it is that I am studying. I won't even get into details about that because the truth is of no value in here. We are in bull**** land, where fat bald couch potatoes can pretend they would beat pro boxers based on the fact that they let themselves get over 200 lbs.

    You have not addressed a single one of my points. You merely came out of nowhere to attack me, and not my points. Maxime has done exactly the same thing and that is why I retaliated.

    Clearly, this place is a refuge for those who don't have the fortitude to express themselves in real life situations. That is a problem that I do not share. So I will let you guys have your moments, I'll keep my energy for real world interactions. Like is the case when you step in a boxing ring, bull****/pretending ends when you confront the real world.

    Watch your friend Zelenoff, you guys are not much different from him.
     
  14. PH|LLA

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    from personal experience having friends of all backgrounds including black, and having roomed with a mexican and a black guy and having had an asian girlfriend and being arab myself i can honestly say that there is not much racism in Montreal.

    a little bit of racism is not a big deal and is pretty much inevitable.
     
  15. Fightfan of Mtl

    Fightfan of Mtl Bad Intentions Full Member

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    How can you say that, you don't know me. I might be able to send you to your grave with one shot......


    Poor guy......