Miranda vs Kessler - Dont count Montreal out!

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  1. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    Do you think you're the only one to have a black friend in Montreal? Do you think you're the only one to have some instruction? Let's talk about arguments here. You don't know why people prefer a boxer more than another unless you make a serious study on the question. You did not. But you have a black friend. So Montreal is a racist city. And if I don't like Mayweather's big mouth, it's because I'm racist. And if I don't agree with you, I'm a coward, a big fat couch potatoe. Sorry, but I'm in a very good shape, I'm not racist, I like a lot of black boxers, my children black friends come to my house to play, they're educated by black teachers, and you just don't have the right to say I'm racist or that Montreal is a racist city.

    If you want to talk about racism, well go ahead, but use a little of goodsense please, and a lot of facts. Is there a financial difference between black and white boxers, for example? That would need a lot of work, and I suspect you prefer writing before thinking.
     
  2. Boyd

    Boyd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    all i know is im a white boy from canada who loves Lennox and would be hoping that Kessler knocks Mirandas head off!
     
  3. Jepster

    Jepster Almost Audleysome Full Member

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    You're talking out your arse... You have no basis to legitimately make those claims.

    1) You do not know the ethnic composition of ESB.
    2) You are making you're own conclusions based on what other people say. That does not translate to the meaning they vest in their words, but to your normative ideas of the world.
    That is the definition of bias.
    3) If a white guy prefers a white fighter it does not mean he is racist it might just mean he identifies more with the white fighter. The same of course goes for a black guy.
    4) If you're a racist it does not mean that you root for a guy with a certain ethnicity it means that you actively dislike certain ethnicities and percieve them through negative stereotypifications.
     
  4. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    I wish one day my english will be good enough to write such bright posts.
     
  5. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    1) Serious people don't guess. They base their opinion on facts. Try that some day.
     
  6. Jepster

    Jepster Almost Audleysome Full Member

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    You are thick aren't you :D

    1) What the hell are you on about?

    2) Everything is not subjective. If it was then there would be no social coherence.

    3+4) I'm not denying the existense of racism I'm just saying that it is not a predominant feature on ESB. I'm also offering you a more correct notion of the term as you do not have a clue to what it is.
     
  7. Jepster

    Jepster Almost Audleysome Full Member

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    Why thank you :D
     
  8. Jepster

    Jepster Almost Audleysome Full Member

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    Because:

    1) People are social beings and create meaning in and through interaction.

    2) Interaction is only possible on the background of a more or less coherent view of our social and historical background.

    3) Beliefs are just beliefs and if you look for statements that specifically fit your belief they will stand out to you as true, but that will not be the case for other people. Therefore what seems as evident truths to you are not obejctive truths by any means.

    You're implying I'm gay? What is wrong with being gay? You don't like homosexuals? That would be ironic wouldn't it...
     
  9. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Think you may be wasting your time, Jepster...:conf
     
  10. Jepster

    Jepster Almost Audleysome Full Member

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    No not at all I'm enjoying my self :D He might get dizzy soon and log out :good
     
  11. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    He probably won't even read your carefully written posts...:-( :verysad :-(
     
  12. Jepster

    Jepster Almost Audleysome Full Member

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    Well he most probably will not, but I'm bored so I don't mind :lol: