Mismatch: Prime Liston vs Prime Tyson

Great match up. One of the best in fantasy fight history at any weight. I lean towards Tyson as I always do because head to head he's even money or better against anyone, and you can't say that about anyone else.

I think Tyson would grind Liston down in a fight similar to Tyson-Thomas with Liston's jab causing trouble, but every time Liston opens up he gets caught with counters. Tyson TKO 9 Liston.

 

I'd go with Liston, one thing I don't recall Tyson ever having to deal with in the eighties was an opponent who could fight on the inside, Liston could and would. He'd push Tyon onto the back foot and grind him down.

 

Liston by KO in 7 because Tyson needs to get move forward
maybe Liston takes him out earlier or Jabs Tysons Head of to wide UD

Liston Better Boxer
Best Heavyweight Jab after Holmes and the Hardest Jab of all Time
More Punching Power
Better Left Hook
Better stamina for 12-15 Rounds
Equivalent Defence , Liston Head Movement was very good even past his prime against Ali
Better Infighter
Tysons frightening tactics have no effect on Liston
Better Chin
(that Punch from Williams directly on Listons Chin would Knockout Tyson for sure + Liston takes a Dive against Ali and by the way he was only once Knocked out in his career almost 40 years old from a lucky Punch against a guy who Kill a Man in the Ring

Leotis Martin kill Sonny Banks in a Boxing match


Tyson
Better Body Movement
Better Uppercut
Better Handspeed
(does not help here , just look Patterson)

Better Combinations

 

Liston hit harder and Cleveland Williams to
his handspeed has no factor in this fight
he dont move , he use his body movement , Alis style is move
in that way what you call it

unbeatable also means nothing because its just
a word from anyone by the media or whatever...
just like Foreman and even Liston himself
who did not have the luck of Tyson and met the best Heavyweight
of all Time - Muhammad Ali.

And i think Liston anyway has more status of
"unbeatable" in his time because after Ali fight people say
this was lucky and Liston was favorite even in fight 2

So Give us facts

 

Weak chinned Liston who was only down once in his entire career. :rofl

 

Well put.

 

This is NOT the comedy forum! :nono

 

Tyson has 0 wins over greats, he only beat bums.

Love the trolls who worship this nobody.

 

Tyson’s skill at Slipping the Jab and coming inside on “Boxers” was excellent, However Slipping Liston’s jab and coming inside perhaps would not yield the same results that slipping the jabs of others Tyson met like Tubb’s, Thomas or Biggs ect did. Liston would probably prey for an inside fight, OK give him a few extra inches punching room...

Often Mike did not keep working when up very close. (As a Frazier Would) and with his feet close together could be pushed back, if you were bold and refused to be intimidated, as Holyfield later showed, Very few had the fortitude, Ability..and General predatory nastiness to come for him... Liston Does...

Some may not have complete faith in either to Gut it out if things start to go against them to any degree, Both were expert finishers with wounded prey, but its when those first Mental cracks start to appear, the realisation that they are in with someone who can seriously hurt them that things may start to get really interesting... and one’s ascendancy...and correspondingly one’s fold might prove quite sudden. Unlike against other “Boxers “ who they will, all being well, belive that they can ultimately catch up to and despatch, both would recognise the other as a Heavy-Density Predator who does not let wounded prey off the Hook...But destroys it in quick Order...

Sometimes when Tyson felt threatened he seemed to up the Trash Talk, But would he tell Liston he was going to make him his Girlfriend..? or invite down to the Basement for a Last Man Standing...Somehow i doubt it... I think they both spoke the Language of Intimidation, Liston did not have to result to threatening to rip out hearts or eat his opponents babies... With Sonny a Baleful stare was usually enough, and of course Commissions can not fine you for pointed silences ..

No, this one would have to be won through Deed, Or course Tyson might implode and commit some foul if things start to go against him...but i think that he would also know that should he try to take a chunk out of Sonny’s ear.... Sonny will probably not be held back by a Ref jumping between .. The Younger Follower i suspect would favour the more Accessible Tyson, He of the Highlight Reel Ko sequences...The Older follower the Less Media Friendly Liston, I think the Bookies would also side with Tyson, in which case i for one would favour an Upset....

Both were Sprinters, Great “On Top” fighters, but with Liston having the Ability to Endure, If Tyson does not make a Big Impression on Liston in the first half of the fight....Whilst being forced back and shipping a few heavy shots, ...the Pebbles before the Landslide perhaps...does he start to trudge back to his (shambolic ?) corner...to be greeted with a man with a Water-Filled Condom...?

It may start out untidy..with much Mauling as Tyson gets inside, but finds he cant Bully his man once there...each fighters Bomb runs might be sporadic and short lived initially, but as things settle down..i can see Liston’s Heavy jab becoming the Match winner, he is not as quick as Mike..but once he starts to time him..it will give him that extra punching room he needs, with Mike perhaps becoming more hesitant and respectful of whats waiting for him inside... of course the secret to beating Tyson is not to wait...to initiate, do not seek to respond.. but put Static in his Attic with the Jab ... Stopping his Attack Programming Running...then Switch Channels on him... and Junk Him..

Tyson would soon be looking ill at ease i suspect, Looking at the Ref for Deemed infringements, the reason i feel this could of happened..? because even at his accredited best, against Mike Spinks, many only looked at Tyson’s performance, they did not care to acknowledge that the Frozen Spinks that night was absolutely no Barometer to greatness, Tyson had had things so much his own way in his career to that point, but he was a ManChild psychologically,I can not help but wonder how he would react with Nasty Liston Payloads Incoming..?

If we are pitting a 22-24year old Tyson against a 27-29 year old Liston or indeed say the Spinks Tyson, against the Pre-Championship (Circa Cleve Williams) Liston i really do think that Sonny would keep any embryonic mind demons of his own in check, and when the Mushroom Cloud Clears.... The ManChild is Vanquished...I’ll Plumb for the Stoney-Faced One. Perhaps Mid-Fight.

 

great match up, i think liston would beat him, but tyson has a chance against anybody. just like listons jab and uppercuts when it comes to swarmers

 

I'd rate Liston's defense even better believe it or not, as he actually maintained it throughout the fight unlike Tyson. Tyson did it one or 2 round tops. Tyson's defense is very overrated imo.

 

I think Liston would give Mike hell ... he had a very good jab and good boxing skills .... had enormous power as well ... but I think Tyson in his prime can pull off a victory ...

 

Im not even gonna try to pick a winner. I'd pay just to see the staredown.