missing the old days when Don king used to rule

He coulda made these titles UNIFIED but now everything is friggin goosen tooter haha

 

I think King's greatest talent apart from ripping off fighters was, he knew how to monetize a fight better than anyone, including Arum and De la Hoya and he wasn't afraid to reach for the stars which is why the majority of his fights were blockbusters.

He also wasn't afraid of making a fight, even if it involved one of his cash cows risking it all against another great fighter. (as long as he controls both)

 

Don King is a gangster, old school :deal He has body bagged cats, pleaded the 5th before senate and congressional hearings, in regards to dealings with Cosa Nostra and organized crime families as well as power house politicians.

No one, I repeat no one says no to Don King.

 

Definately no secret that when Don King farts, muthafawkas take cover.

 

Tyson on King: "(King is) a wretched, slimy, reptilian mother****er. This is supposed to be my 'black brother' right? He's just a bad man, a real bad man. He would kill his own mother for a dollar. He's ruthless, he's deplorable, he's greedy, and he doesn't know how to love anybody."

 

I also missed the days of SRR, Greb, Armstrong and Louis when the mob was in control of the sport.

 

You have to remember what was going on at that time to put it in perspective.

Tyson was in jail.
He had to put together stacked cards to get PPV buys.
He ended up building PPV cards around Chavez and then putting on a bunch of his other non-marketable champs on there.

But, this has clearly been the exception.
Look at what happened when Tyson wasn't in prison.
He stuck Showtime with a horrible output deal where to get Tyson he picked the fights on regular Showtime. Keith Holmes and William Joppy headlined every other freakin' month and he refused to match them against each other.
Most of his Showtime cards were horrible.

 

Cleveland's finest.

In the 90s: Tyson and Chavez OR Trinidad and Chavez + 3 other title fights in 1 card
Todays promoters: Tyson in January at $60, Chavez- Latin Fury 34643 w/ 3 nobodies $55 in February, Trinidad against a mandatory with another fighter fighting a scrub on the undercard in March in anticipation of them meeting in 4 years.

 

Gangsta: He has a quote something along the lines of, he knows that hood dudes would rather have $10k cash than a $100k check, so he would sign em with a briefcase of money.

Look at the whole Mayorga situation: Mayorga gets an advance of money. Why does Don let this happen? B/c he lends at interest and he ALWAYS gets his money back. He knows damn well Ricardo is going to waste it all and need to fight. Ricardo tries to go to MMA instead, Don gets an injunction just before Ricardo is about to fight, but he has to post a million dollar bond, so Don King shows up to court with a million dollars CASH in TWO DUFFEL BAGS. Now Mayorga is back to pay off DOn King's advancement and his interest, and will probably make nothing off that fight.

 

Promoters is only one of your problems. The other are - alphabet belts and the fighters themselves.

Many top fighters DEMAND they have PPV fights even when it is tune up vs scrubs.

And fans too are part of the problems.

BOXING as a whole money making industry is ugly as sh!t. It is eating itself slowly.

 

that is some funny, but ****ed up, ****

 

There is one man that stood up and said NO to Don King , and that was the late Great Legendary trainer/manager-Jackie MCcoy.

Jackie McCoy once made Don King put over $100,000 in escrow before the Carlos Palomino vs. Roberto Duran fight in the laet 1970's, cause McCoy didnt trust King, and had told him to put the money in first, or you get no fight, cause as McCoy told King, " I dont trust you".

McCoy, then, was considered the most powerfull man in boxing, and some considered him the "God of Boxing" cause he could get almost anything done, but he never abused his position and never showed off, and for the most part stayed quiet.

McCoy took very much care of his fighters and retired them early when he felt there was no need to keep on fighting, which is why every fighter McCoy has worked with is now living in good health with no "punch-drunk" syndrome, slurry speaches, etc.

McCoy always let all how fighters keep their full money and didnt take a paycut/percentage or any dime from their purses, until they became Main Event fighters in big fights.

here's a memorial om McCoy:

ANAHEIM, Calif. _
In a sport that often lacks integrity, boxing manager and trainer Jackie McCoy stood out from the rest.
McCoy, 73, who helped develop five world champions, died Monday at Columbia Hospital in Anaheim after a long battle with cancer.
``Everybody that came in contact with him was lucky to have him be a part of their life,'' McCoy's longtime friend Benny Georgino said. ``We hardly ever went to a fight without being together. We had such a good relationship, we never argued. We respected each other highly. He's my pal, my great pal. I'm really going to miss him.''
McCoy, who was born in Los Angeles and lived for the past 25 …

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Here's another memorial on him by Steve Farhood:

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...Rojas was a talented West Coast featherweight and was managed by Jackie McCoy. McCoy had been a top bantamweight back in the 40's and was one of the most respected manager-trainers in boxing. Jackie was not only a great teacher, but a well connected handler, whose boxers automatically became "house fighters" at the Olympic Auditorium. Promoter Aileen Eaton and Jackie McCoy had an unofficial alliance. McCoy's job was to provide the talent and Eaton would use her power to promote the talent into a world championship.

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thats incredible.

 

I just recently leaned that Don King killed not one, but TWO people 13 years apart. One he shot in the back and the other he stomped to death for not paying up a few hundred dollars...allegedly.

 

(here's another article on McCoy)

McCoy Dies, Leaving Ring of Memories

Boxing: Trainer of five world champions in a 46-year career in Southern California succumbs to cancer at 73.

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|EARL GUSTKEY | TIMES STAFF WRITER

Jackie McCoy, longtime Southland boxing trainer who developed five world champions in a 46-year career, died Monday at 73 after a long fight with cancer.

He is perhaps best known for bringing a popular Long Beach teenager named Mando Ramos to the world lightweight championship in 1969. But he also made world champions of welterweights Don Jordan (1958-'60) and Carlos Palomino (1977-'79); plus featherweight Raul Rojas (1968) and lightweight Rodolfo Gonzalez (1972-'74).



In recent years he worked with South African heavyweight Gerry Coetzee, who once owned a piece of the heavyweight championship.
Longtime Southland boxing promoter Don Fraser hailed McCoy.

"In all my years in boxing, I never heard anyone say one bad word about Jackie," Fraser said Monday. "He was known as a guy who treated his boxers fairly, and the guys who fought for him were lifelong friends after their boxing days were over."

Guys like Ramos, an electrifying fighter who filled the Olympic Auditorium numerous times with fans who set up chants of "Mando! Mando! Mando. . . ."

Ramos won the world title at 20, knocking out Teo Cruz in Los Angeles in 1969.

He became such a big draw his 1972 match with Chango Carmona was held in the Coliseum. Before 25,000, Carmona stopped Ramos in the eighth round.

Ramos was an indifferent trainer and quickly succumbed to the distractions of wine, women and song and, later, worse.
"Ramos was a dream fighter, but it all became a nightmare after he won the title," McCoy years later. "Half the time, I couldn't find him."
Ramos went into an even deeper tailspin years after his boxing days, but McCoy and others helped rescue him from drug and alcohol abuse.

"I idolize the guy," Ramos said in 1987. "If my son ever wanted to box, Jackie would be his trainer. That's what I think of him."
McCoy, small and slender, looked more like a librarian than a fight trainer.

For most of his boxing years, he had a day job as a San Pedro longshoreman. He also was recognized as one of the sport's best cut men and worked many corners when his own fighters weren't booked.
Jordan's story was similar to Ramos': a champion at 24 and former champion at 25.

Said McCoy of Jordan: "He had great natural ability but abused it. Right after winning the title [in 1958], he was arrested for drunk driving. He wouldn't train much."

But Palomino was different.

"Carlos was the easiest guy I ever managed," McCoy said in 1987. "He had good ability and he was super dedicated. If you wanted him to run five miles, he'd give you seven."

After he retired, Palomino--now a member of the State Athletic Commission--said of McCoy: "The first four-round fight I had, I got $80.

But Jackie didn't take a cut of my purse until I got to main events.
"He never gets a lot of credit because he's so quiet. He wants his fighters in the limelight, not him."

Services for McCoy are pending.

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