MMA fanboys' extreme hate for boxing...

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Blacc Jesus, Sep 6, 2007.


  1. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't know about that. No one with Randy Coutures record in boxing would ever be considered anything but a totally worthless chump.

    In MMA, losing ONE FIGHT doesn't always mean that the fighter is an exposed bum like it does in boxing.

    BTW, that is Chuck's second loss to Rampage, so, it does make a bit of sense that he doesn't get an immediate rematch. He was already completely dominated by the guy TWICE.
     
  2. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I want to point out just a few things that I don't think all boxing fans understand about the difference between boxing and "boxing" in MMA.

    In an MMA fight, all the really skilled ducking and weaving that boxers do is a big mistake. It is begging for a knee or a kick to the head.

    In an MMA fight, combinations are rarely more than 4 punches long. There is a very good reason for this. When you are close enough to punch someone, typically, they are close enough to clinch you. Therefore, in an MMA fight, you typically want to get in and out with your combinations, and not stand right in front of the guy throwing 5-8 punches.

    In an MMA fight body punches are all but completely worthless.

    MMA fights tend to end in KO or submission, with smaller gloves, it is important to do real damage with your punches. Believe it or not, Chuck Lidells form is VERY GOOD for generating lots and lots of power. Also, the smaller gloves make it harder to block punches on the gloves. Winky Wright's defense wouldn't be quite as stellar with 4 oz gloves.

    Yeah, just some things to consider. They are different sports.
     
  3. J_Roth

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    I try not to get into these ******ed debates. It's like a nine ball player being pissed about a snooker player being on t.v. I've been a boxing fan since early childhood. I've been a MMA fan since around U.F.C. 1. Both have their good fights and bad. I will watch either on just as much as the other.
     
  4. kirk

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    why i hate mma

    1 - Because Dana White... the president of basically the face of mma, trashes it every chance he gets. **** him, **** ufc, **** mma

    2 - Because its become 'better then boxing' so to speak to mainstream. Every *** and their family thinks MMA is the ultimate and boxing is weak. Ignorance is bliss i suppose.

    3 - Because their magazines ARE replacing the boxing magazines i buy. Its just a general, replacing process. People say we can both exist... then cool... i agree, we can. But when i go and the 4 magazines that are usually there for boxing, and now they only carry 1, and i swear like 4 or 5 mma magazines... its bull****.

    4 - Reading through their magazines... all but id say Real Fighter i think its called which is actually an awsome mag, **** on boxing every chance they get like they have an inferiority complex.

    5 - Their fans
     
  5. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    I do understand that - and am fully aware that the earlier you go in the fight game, particularly before the promulgation of the Queensbury rules, the similarities indeed increase

    But I was raised on the modern form of boxing, where there was always action. Boxing ADVANCED from its development stages, and this represents an improvement in both technique and entertainment value.

    Unlike you perhaps, I don't like wrestling, which is in the main what UFC is. To me, all that rolling around is, as I said, just boring. If people want to get into that stuff, fine - but as a boxing fan, I don't like the way these UFC clowns trash the sweet science, which is a far more refined, advanced, and most of all, entertaining form of combat.
     
  6. J_Roth

    J_Roth VRWC Hybrid Beaner Full Member

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    Excellent points. Personally I really ignore what Dana White or the fighters say about other sports or fighters. No different that me not caring what a James Toney or Mayweather say. I really ignore the trash talk.
     
  7. stillafan

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    Chimba, typically MMA stances are different than boxers becasuse they can tackle, leg kick, and head kick....if MMA fighters stood just like boxers they would be very vulnerable......
     
  8. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Agreed.
     
  9. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If all MMA fights looked like that I would actually love MMA
     
  10. teekay00

    teekay00 fight Full Member

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    I do not like MMA because i see guys get knocked out with 1 kick or punch, that doesnt mean the other guy is better. In boxing most of the time the better guy wins. And if Fedor gets hit by Klitschko with gardening gloves, he will probably not get up.
     
  11. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    I like that guy..I liked the way he broke the other guys ribs too...He has skill and is graceful in a ******ed sport..did you see the other guy that is supposed to be a top fighter swinging at him like a girl..lol:gayfight:gayfight :gayfight "You ****er..take that..and that" :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  12. Blacc Jesus

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    :lol:
     
  13. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    While I disagree with you on things ranging from Lennox Lewis' legacy to which economic system is best for the human race, you obviously are not a stupid person, and clearly recognize the difference between rationality and irrationality.

    So why then, do you insist on lowering yourself to the level, and actually becoming the same thing with an opposing viewpoint, of the mma "clowns", which I fully admit there are plenty, and they are absolutely ******ed? Why are you seemingly unwilling to either just state that its not for you and let it go, or better yet, engage in a meaningful discussion about it? At the very least, just keep the broad stroked insults that you clearly know are not rational to the clowns, rather than becoming one yourself in an actually meaningful discussion?
     
  14. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    While I don't really know if you are being sarcastic or not, I do agree that he clearly didn't use great boxing compared to a comparably ranked and sized boxer, it just goes to show that some MMA fighters are able to utilize other skills than boxing even while standing up, muay thai kickboxing in this case.

    Not to mention that along with his great kicks, elbows, and knees both from the clinch and outside of it, Anderson Silva also has to constantly train his ground game, both submission wise, and takedown and takedown defense wise, which he is getting exponentially better at.

    So while the boxing obviously will never be as good as a boxer, the standing striking can be great in other ways.
     
  15. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Note I said UFC. Not MMA.

    Dana White is like the DK of boxing. Makes big fights pays shitty. The only guy who currently makes money is Randy.