MMA fanboys' extreme hate for boxing...

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Blacc Jesus, Sep 6, 2007.


  1. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who pays better? If nobody else is willing to pay more, than market value has been established. Do I wish all fighters could make a full time living from fighting and the top guys could be Oscar or even "just" Floyd rich? Of course I do, but I realize that fighters are paid for the value they bring, and at this point in MMA the talent pool allows for fighters to be replaced with a similarly skilled guy and demand is such that fighters getting paid that much just isn't realistic for any sustained period yet.
     
  2. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Pride by far payed better, a shame UFC bought it out.
     
  3. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Prides payscale, when it actually had to be released publicly in the US, was only higher for the low end guys, the other guys were similar if not a little worse. The only guys who got huge paydays weren't even the best fighters, but guys like Yoshida, Ogawa, and Royce.

    Both organizations had contract bonuses that don't have to be released, but to assume either one was bigger than the other is speculation.
     
  4. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    UFC bonus is always released.


    http://nodq.com/ufc/190252194.shtml

    http://nodq.com/ufc/190870289.shtml
     
  5. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Granted, boxing is more exciting. But it's not the "more advanced" form. All of the techniques in boxing are (theoretically at least) also present in MMA, and both types of athletes devote the same amount of time for training. MMA guys don't throw great punches because they have to expend time learning equally complicated non-boxing stuff (Muay Thai, BJJ). Since you seem to agree that MMA involves skill and that some people DO like wrestling and submission grappling (hence, it's entertaining for them), why the need to trash MMA in general rather than the specific idiots who insult boxing?
     
  6. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It goes both ways and both "FAN BOYS" repping each side are completely WRONG. Both MMA and Boxing are great fighting sports. Both offer a different and unique platform showcasing great ONE ON ONE Battle between two highly skilled and combative fighters.

    I just don't understand why some people feel you can't like both and RESPECT both sports!! That's the biggest thing....for guys to put their life on the line and dedicate so much of themselves to a sport meant to bring entertainment..you as a fan HAVE to show respect....Even if you aren't a fan of either sport, respect for the love, dedication and commitment these professionals show should be.

    I like both MMA and Boxing...I like Boxing a bit more just b/c I like striking and the focused skill that you have in ONE area. But I like the diversity of tools and weapons that MMA offers. If you aren't watching BOTH, then you are missing out.
     
  7. Into The Mix

    Into The Mix New Member Full Member

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    Boxing and MMA are both sports, and people need to realize that, what people should do before they say how MMA is just rolling around on the floor dryhumping eachother or how boxing is just running around with pillows touching eachother is try to learn something about it. If you know nothing about the ground game of MMA then you really have no idea what you are talking about just as if you think using heavier boxing gloves will be better for a boxer long term. I personally am a bigger fan of MMA for multiple reasons, mainly because Dana White desides the fights and I dont have to watch a good fighter fight a crappy fighter all the time, which is what boxing has been recently. In boxing you get no more then 4 good fights a year. All I have to really say is before you talk trash about either sport actually know what you're talking about, research Ju Jitsu and learn what they do on the ground and why it is exciting, fights can be exciting without having to stand up and try to knock eachother out you just have to know what both fighters are trying to do
     
  8. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Though I'm a fan of both, I'm curious as to how many MMA fights are fixed...it'd be much easier than throwing a boxing match...:think
     
  9. Into The Mix

    Into The Mix New Member Full Member

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    Losses arn't the same in MMA as in boxing, in MMA they start you off fighting guys that are a good match for you that will make an even fight where as in boxing one blemish on your record unless you have 25 wins under your belt makes your career over so you can't expect that flawless MMA records but if you want a few badasses that are coming up you have young guys like Roger Huerta and Sean Sherk or someone with almost a flawless record and is thought to be one of the best fighters in the world Fedor Emelianenko.
     
  10. box03

    box03 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fedor was good in pride I think he was undefeated, I still wish he would use better boxing technique in his fights. He throws alot of looping punches which would be easy for someone with a little boxing knowledge to counter, other than that hes pretty close to a complete fighter.
     
  11. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Because it's fun tweaking all the MMA fanboys.:yep
     
  12. Blacc Jesus

    Blacc Jesus . Full Member

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    You're as cold as ice. :lol:
     
  13. Blacc Jesus

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    His looping shots set up his throws very well. That's why even a precise striker like Cro Cop couldn't really do much to him. He really didn't have time to set up many shots.
     
  14. Blacc Jesus

    Blacc Jesus . Full Member

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    Very true.
     
  15. box03

    box03 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I see what your saying, but why is Shane Mosely working with Rampage then?