MMA fighters and body punches

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  1. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Spot on but Liddell threw one of the worst body punches iv ever seen. The result was an over hand right counter that put him to sleep.
     
  2. Ishrol666

    Ishrol666 New Member Full Member

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    Your obviously one of the board tits, resorting to a comment like that

    The poster said he has been watching UFC for a couple of years, not every other MMA event available, and its true in the UFC there are very few who utilise effective body shots.
     
  3. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    The UFC is a BRAND of MMA. Bodyshots have been part of the arsenal of TONS of fighters in MMA. Now the thread title says "MMA fighters and body punches". Dont see any references there to the UFC..
     
  4. Ishrol666

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    Read the posters opening sentance, k thanks

    Yes we all know UFC is a brand of MMA, which is why I said not every other MMA event available.

    And i`m quite sure body shots are utilised in lots of other MMA fights, the poster said he has been watching UFC for a couple of years, no mention of other brands or events.
     
  5. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    And you read the thread title. This isnt an argument about semantics its an debate about facts. Beebs post is spot on because body punches have been used in the UFC as well as a multitude of other orgs. But that wasnt the point. The point was there use in MMA NOT just the UFC.
     
  6. Ishrol666

    Ishrol666 New Member Full Member

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    You are either just seeing what you want to see because of bias or haven't seen much MMA.

    This is the part of beebs post is what makes him sound like a tit, if he bothered to read the posters opening sentence, he would see its obvious his opinion was based on watching the UFC and not the multitude of other events available, so there was no need to make the comment. It was just uneccessarily rude.
     
  7. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The original poster was rude in reference to MMA's lack of knowledge of body punches. He was on the "offensive" about the sport so beebs defended it. It would've been "tit" of beebs if the original poster said something like "I haven't seen many body punches, why aren't they utilized more? It seems to me it is very under utilized weapon." Instead he sounded arrogant.

    Wanna keep arguing semantics?
     
  8. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    I agree that it was an extremely poor left hook to the body. The technique was pretty bad.
     
  9. Strike

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    Yeah but he said "body punches". Seven of that top ten body shots were not punches. Five were kicks, one was a knee and one was a ****ing body slam.
    So the top ten body shots had a total of 3 punches, rather proving his initial point that body punches are not used much in MMA.
     
  10. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    It was utterly awful. He had to be at least a 2 feet away from Rampage. As a striker despite having heavy hands Liddell had awful technique.
     
  11. Ishrol666

    Ishrol666 New Member Full Member

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    Yeah i could do, but whats the point arguing with armchiar fighters.

    I wouldnt have said the poster was being arrogant or offensive, it wasnt like hes just started watching and decided to critisize, he was making a valid point, ive watched quite a bit of MMA and I dont see much effective body striking by punches, and I put it down to MMA fighters on the whole have basic striking ability, they have just enough to get them by. Anderson Silva is considered one of the best but his striking looks better than it is because his opponents dont know how to move or defend well.

    Chuck Liddel, often described as one of the most devastating strikers in MMA, lol, says it all. He has heavy hands, but thats all.

    Saying that i know its hard for an MMA fighter to excell in all aspects as it takes so long to develop the well rounded skills needed, you dont have enough time to devote to perfecting everything.
     
  12. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I want's rude at all, I was making an observation. I have watched 100's of UFC fights and I just don't recall may, if any, ending with a brutal body punch. I understand it's not boxing but it just seems to me when you're in close there's opportunities to throw these type of punches. As for other MMA sports, truthfully I've probably never watched a non UFC MMA fight. Where I live the only MMA fights on TV are UFC fights.

    I certainly wasn't knocking the sport, as I enjoy boxing and MMA equally.
     
  13. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's pretty much my point. I know it's a different sport and there are four limbs (good god talk about basics) being utilitized rather than two, but that still doesn't mean there's never an opportunity to throw a good body shot. I just personally think it's an under utilized weapon.
     
  14. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No. Here's what you said "Is this just my imagination or don't they know how to throw good body punches. Considering how often they clinch it seems like a very under utilized weapon, not in the sense that they don't throw body punches they do, but they don't seem to know how to throw paralizing shots to the liver, solar plexes, or things of that nature.

    You're saying they DO use it, but they just don't know how to properly throw them. These people if they are not high level boxers they are very skilled strikers from other combat sports. They know how to utilize a body punch very well.

    Beebs clearly showed you examples of PLENTY of people knocking people out with body punches. Perhaps more so than in boxing(i.e. body KOs per 100 fights in either sport). So your, quite arragont statement that they don't know how to punch to the body doesn't fly as a "good will" statement. You're gona be knocking on a sport than get your guard up cause you will not be received with much love.

    What I'm saying is that with these small gloves it's easier to pinpoint liver, solar plexus and even your spleen. So a good body punch should be concentrated even more than it is in boxing because it's much easier to land and the damage from those punches have great return. Therefore should be used more often.
     
  15. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There were plenty of examples in the ufc, so either he hasn't seen much or is intentionally not seeing it because of a bias; that's not rude at all.