MMA Fighters learn to box differently

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  1. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not THAT differently.... but...... since there is other concerns in a MMA fight, the timing, the angles and the combinations wired in the MMAs guy head are different.

    I knew that before since I saw that before on the flesh...

    Sonnen here talks about Roy Jones speaking about it with him a while ago...

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    I am one that never bought the idea that Floyd carried Conor, he did not, nobody does that and what for ? he got hit here and there and lost 1 or 2 rounds because he was adjusting to a timing and angles that he was not used to... simple. IMO.
     
  2. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yep, Conor was out boxing lil Floyd for 3-4 rounds and Floyd had to fight like a Mexican club fighter to win.
     
  3. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Okay. You going sarcastic to the other extreme doesn't make "floyd carried him" true.
     
  4. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I wasn't being sarcastic. When have you ever seen Floyd walking towards an opponent with a high guard like a club fighter? He knew he had to walk him down and make it a dog fight.
     
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  5. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, then I disagree a little. I think he was going to win either way, he just wanted a stoppage... he felt confident after he figured out Conor, and he got the stoppage even if it was not impressive or a clean knockout (I still think the ref stopped early but hey it is me only).

    But those 2 rounds that he lost and the 1 or 2 clean punches that he ate were 100% real.
     
  6. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yes floyd was going to win, we all knew that. I expected a counterpunching exhibition where Conor was going to be throughly outboxed from the opening bell and maybe saved by the ref in the 5-6 rounds.

    What I didn't expect was Conor winning 1-3 rounds and maybe draw in the 4th, and floyd having to walk forward with a clumsy high guard to try and TKO Conor. Even Conor's corner didn't expect that, according to the post-fight interview.
     
  7. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Fury disgraced himself and the sport. Let's not get away from that and credit mma fighters as being competitive with boxing champions at boxing. They just aren't. Fury is a bum and Ngannou exploited that. It's not going to happen like that again if more cross over.
     
  8. Terror

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    Depends, a lot of MMA guys just go to a boxing gym for their boxing work and rarely will a boxing trainer adjust their regimen for an MMA guy. Conor had boxed, he knew boxing, he just wasn't nearly as good as Mayweather. In heavyweight boxing, size and pace both decrease the skill gap among the top fighters.
     
  9. kirk

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    Fight played out exactly how I thought it would. And it was Mayweathers smartest option.

    Connor is a southpaw who has a 74" reach and who fights long which further adds to that, with enough venom on his punches to make it unsuitable for a smaller fighter to stay on the outside.

    Factor in his stamina issues, and pressuring him behind a high guard was always the move.
     
  10. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    boxing is being exposed pretty bad. And yes awkward fighters are always hard to deal with, which is why floyd had a bit of trouble with drunken master augustus. Weird punches from weird angles and off beat rhythm/footwork hard to time. Floyd did not carry connor either, he employed a genius strategy of tiring him out then going for the kill later knowing connor didnt have top tier boxing cardio like that.
     
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  11. kirk

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    Only Fury Ngannou has been a hit on boxing in reality. And in all fairness, yes, the entire subject should be discussed in its shadow, understood.

    But all of a sudden people are forgetting that Jake Paul has been beating MMA guys left and right.

    People are so out of touch with reality on the subject however, that they view a smaller, feather fisted, retired 40 year old fighter walking down and stopping one of MMAs best strikers, who was bigger and in their prime, as a knock on boxing.
     
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  12. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Connor isn't capable of outboxing Floyd. He was throwing pitty pat "punches". If he actually tried to load up, he would struggle to land. And this was against a much smaller and older guy. If McGregor was such a master boxer, why not fight a guy his size and age like Canelo?

    Floyd carried McGregor. Period.
     
  13. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You're smarter than me, I expected Floyd to easily counter him and demonstrate elite class boxing speed and accuracy.
     
  14. ertwin

    ertwin Active Member banned Full Member

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    Mma is just the superior sport, beeing awkward and unorthodox is encouraged in this there by the idea of: if it works it works.
    Boxing on the other hand is held captive by nostalgia and a very strict Idea of what it should be.
    Thats the reason why there is almost no stylistic difference in the amateurs.
     
  15. kirk

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    Not smarter.
    Maybe you just underestimated how good McGregor was at that time, and how hard it can be to outbox a long southpaw when you're an inactive 40 year old.

    Had they both been 28 then I'd be more comfortable with your prediction, but even then, the smart play against McG for Mayweather would always be to pressure behind a high guard. That's just the rock to his scissors so to speak.
     
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