MMA is better than boxing..

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by valdez, Oct 22, 2009.


  1. Sloth

    Sloth Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hey Vitor!! I enjoyed your beatdown of Rich Franklin.:happy
     
  2. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, good thing MMA fighters have usually been working on some form of takedown and grappling most of their life, and unfortunate for boxers that 99% of them have never worker on stopping a takedown in their life. Guys like Cintron would be interesting, but wrestling in MMA is different than wrestling in a wrestling match, the spacing is different, and there is much less fighting for grips for the obvious reason that you have to watch for strikes. Also wrestling alone will still leave you with no experience with submissions or fighting off your back.

    Also there are a few guys who would give a boxer fits standing and striking; you seem to forget that kicks, knees, elbows, and clinching are all pretty important and boxing ignores them. Somebody with really good leg kicks could really take just a straight boxer out of his game in a hurry; boxers don't train protecting the lower half of their body, and once they take a couple of really hard leg kicks they will have a lot of problems with planting their legs and sitting down on their punches. Also how many clinches do you see in boxing? A few a round on average; in MMA you dont have a ref to break them up, a good technical Muay Thai fighter will be able to do real punishing work with knees to the body and face from the clinch.

    Your main point is right, it's just that too many boxing-only fans think that avoiding a takedown is somehow easy or that there would be a KO anytime an MMA fighter looked for a takedown, neither of which is remotely true. MMA has several world class wrestlers and Judo players, guys with national championships, Olympic medals, and serious international experience, and even those guys have trouble staying off the ground because of the unique challenges of MMA. Not to mention the world class submission fighters who don't even need the takedown neccesarily, their are submissions that can be applied from standing, their are subs like leglocks that can be rolled or slid into, and their are several ways to drag a fighter down by pulling guard and conceding top positions.

    So yes, it depends on where the fight happens, and it's always going to be dangerous to be standing with a boxer; for the vas majority of boxers though, they have absolutely no way of keeping the fight where they want, they have simply relied on the rules of their sport to do that for them their whole lives. Again it's always a risk to stand with a boxer, but don't discount how damaging a strong leg kick, or to an even larger degree a knee from a good powerful clinch can be to somebody with no experience in stopping them.

    Also, if you watch the rest of that fight, Igor nearly puts Enson in a coma because his punching on the ground is so damaging.
     
  3. Sloth

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    Post of the week:happy:happy:happy I agree with you all the way:happy:happy:happy
     
  4. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    98 percent of the mma can't kick for s**t and can't raise their legs higher than their hip
     
  5. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i rather be a master of one thing then a halfasser of several things.
     
  6. Sloth

    Sloth Well-Known Member Full Member

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    TUF NOOB:roll:
     
  7. Sloth

    Sloth Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yeah, look at boxing's numbers:rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  8. valdez

    valdez Grand Champ Full Member

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    hit a nerve much? :lol:

    I don't mind MMA..
     
  9. Dynamite Kid

    Dynamite Kid "I Must Break You" Full Member

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    You mean like this?

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    Or how about like this?

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  10. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Does being a master of fighting not count as one thing?
     
  11. calumbo

    calumbo Active Member Full Member

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    Boxing aint dead..

    PBF did what over a million ppv buys and youre saying boxings dead.
    Shut the **** up!
    Once the ufc fighters start to realise dana white is a controlling money grabbing dick, i think youll find there will be a lot of problems.
     
  12. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Being a master of MMA would be a master of one thing now wouldn't it? It's not like they have a boxing match, then have a wrestling match, then a Muay Thai match, then a BJJ match.

    So what you are saying is you want to intentionally limit your skill set to one thing, and view this as somehow theoritically or morally superior.

    Not if you want any prolonged success in MMA, especially if that one skill set leaves you more or less helpless against somebody who doesn't want to fight your fight.
     
  13. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    I love boxing but they have a share of terrible fighters, besides the top 50 p4p, the rest are club fighters with marginal to poor technical skills.

    Which is even more embarassing because it only requires mastering one skill.
     
  14. T.C.W

    T.C.W Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    all the fighters inside the top 30 of each divson is a very good fighter, believe me, looks this sport is globe and been around in it current formate for over a 100 years there are on average 1000 fighters per divison. the talent pool is massive compared to MMA.
     
  15. Nuke

    Nuke Full Length Member Full Member

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    Its simple, put a boxer on his back and the fight is over, why would you NOT want to learn more fighting technics?