MMA on Steroids. Let's Pretend it's legal.

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by sugarngold, Jan 20, 2012.


  1. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    No drug in ANY massive amount is every going to be good for your health. I knew of a girl once who took 'the pill' and died a few days later. Apparently she had a congenital condition that went unnoticed that triggered an extreme response from the 'pill'. Seems of course rather innocuous but no Doctor can predict absolutely the outcome of any drugs from one person to the next. All they can go by is the available and observed symptoms across a broad range.
     
  2. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    Dude it's a fantasy thread. There is no harm in having a discussion. The only thing terrible about it is your lame ass save a ho response that this is a bad thread. Just contribute to the discussion or find another thread to troll or go back to subverting MMA history by stating Ken Shamrock was the UFC heavyweight champion.
     
  3. Will Cooling

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    You asked a question and I gave an answer. I didn't attack you or the thread. Don't be so sensitive. And Ken was the first superfight champion (first ever UFC championship), which was eventually merged with the heavyweight title.
     
  4. Will Cooling

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    I don't dispute any of this but I think the heavy abuse of steroids can be linked to the five aliments I listed. Could probably used a better word than disfiguration to describe the effect on sexual organs.
     
  5. scurlaruntings

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    Problem is that is VERY difficult to prove. No one yet has had a death certificate signed and attributed to steroid abuse. The cocktail of drugs these guys take -which effectively makes them drug addicts ala Mark Kerr - IS the problem.
     
  6. Will Cooling

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    Oh absolutely. Steroids don't make people Chris Benot let alone Mark Kerr. Nothing is ever that simple.

    Funny story. There was a test done to see the effects of steroids that showed that the effects of ever usuage weren't as bad as first thought. Later it turned out that the doctor's researcher was himself a steroid user and was skimming the samples so distorting the results.
     
  7. scurlaruntings

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    I read once of a similar story to that. Except the doctor who had an unknown heart ailment succumbed to the drugs he was taking and died.
     
  8. Will Cooling

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    I mean people shouldn't misunderstand the point - steroids are an incredible drug, a wonderfully creative engineering of testosterone to place the emphasis on the desired anabolic benefits rather than the unwanted androgenic side effects. If not abused it avoids the problems that Russian athletes suffered in the immediate post-war period of using simple testosterone - the inventor of anabolic steroids John Ziegler saw Russian athletes having to use a catheter to urinate. Unfortunately as he himself discovered, if you give it to the hyper-competitive, short-sighted, reckless young men that are athletes the damage they will do to their bodies is staggering.
     
  9. Black2023

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    Whats the diiference between HGH and dbol
     
  10. Will Cooling

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    From an article I wrote awhile back:

     
  11. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    hate to say it but all sports are rampant with GH and steroids already
     
  12. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    HAHA, some of those are the same side effects you'd see on a bottle of tylenol, and there's actually more.
    Disfiguration of sexual organs? wtf, you mean shrunken testicles? LOL

    Tears are very rare and an MMA athlete is unlikely for that to occur unless they're bodybuilding or powerlifting.
    More tears happen to regular joes just training on the mat.
     
  13. Will Cooling

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    Again even a half-hearted attempt at testing does lessen the rate at which steroids are being abused. Another good example is WWE. No one truly believes that the WWE in 2011 is drug free but if you go back to before the Benoit scandal and the institution of the wellness policy the difference in the performers' bodies is staggering.
     
  14. Will Cooling

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    The experience of pro-wrestlers who heavily abuse steroids would beg to differ.
     
  15. Flexb

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    D-bol is a derivative of testosterone. Very androgenic causing side effects mostly tons of water retention along with massive weight gains. You can gain a quick 20lbs in 8 weeks on 20mg of d-bol. and it's pretty cheap.

    Growth Hormone is peptide hormone, causes cell generation and is more complex and extremely expensive. It won't do much for actual muscle growth used by itself, but does burn fat and help overall performance. Most people trying to gain muscle with it combine insulin which helps put "fat back in" the body. GH burns fat and losing weight can happen quite easy while on it. GH in higher amount can cause organs to grow giving a male an extended stomach. It also seems to thicken bones, but I'm not sure how true that is.