MMA. The way boxing should be.

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by BoxingFanNo1, Jan 22, 2009.


  1. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  2. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    Excellent post, I agree on all points. Greed is killing boxing.
     
  3. Bodysnatcher

    Bodysnatcher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  4. radab

    radab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well said my fellow Scot :)
     
  5. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Everything that SUCKS is popular nowadays. What else is new?
     
  6. northernstar83

    northernstar83 Northernstar83 Full Member

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    MMA is one of the dullest things ive seen in a long time id rather watch a heavyweight game of tiddlywinks
     
  7. jeffradka

    jeffradka Active Member Full Member

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    Whatever, it is what it is. I cant get into UFC, but most the target demographic is eating it up. I cant tell you how many dueche bag guys are in the gym playing on the heavy bag like there some ufc star, looking like complete idiots. But Boxing is still Boxing, its not going anywhere, there's plenty of fans to keep it going and there always will be.
     
  8. liger05

    liger05 puroresu fan 4 life!! Full Member

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    I like MMA but dont be think MMA fighters dont want to earn money like top boxers do. Of course they would want that money but they dont have much choice in the matter. Fighters are signed to the UFC and that means they basically take the fights and money the UFC will give them. I mean where else they going to go? Remember MMA is not popular. UFC is popular but other MMA promotions are off the radar. In the past you could go to Japan and Pride did pay better but MMA in Japan has had its boom period and its now on a downturn.

    I would argue that UFC fighters deserve a bigger cut of the revenue the UFC makes.
     
  9. DAGOBOY

    DAGOBOY Active Member Full Member

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    they put up good number and i congratulate them on that but best vs best isnt hapening in either sport. and they put on a ppv every weekend.


    they put on fights that the Mickey's malt liquor drinking fans request.


    seen total mismatches of fighters with 10-10 records fighting champs after losing thier last 2 fights.

    they are marketed very well to wrestling and extreme sports fans.
     
  10. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think some of you are missing the main point of the post. Its not about UFC content, it's the structure. We all have opinions about it, fair enough but the ppv figures are there for all to see. 7/10 for the ppv year because they put on more quality fights than boxing.

    To put it another way. If structured like the UFC, witout the bull**** politics, boxing would have had -

    Calzaghe, RJJ and Hopkins mixing it up early 2000ish. Lewis, Tyson Holyfield and Bowe Early-mid 90's.

    Fights would have been forced and we the viewing public get exactly what we want. Who wouldn't want that? No excuses, no greed, best v best.
     
  11. ralphc

    ralphc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Greed is making UFC very profitable.
     
  12. ralphc

    ralphc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You mean you want the top executives to take a smaller bonuses? What are you, a ****ing Democrat?:huh
     
  13. 1-Ton

    1-Ton Walking in the Light Full Member

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    Some into Dana White's pockets. However, a good chunk of it is also going towards good undercard fights, which is the difference. Though I am avid supporter of boxing, my chief complaint like so many others, is that beyond the PPV main event, there are rarely any attractive fights on the undrcard. I find myself begrudgingly paying $54.95 because I know that if the main event sucks, then the money is all but wasted.
     
  14. RSBonos

    RSBonos Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I am sick of people assuming that the UFC model is best for MMA or boxing.

    1. ZUFFA aka the UFC gets 90% of all the profits instead of the fighters

    2. If you question or cross the UFC they will do anything possible to ruin your career including freezing out a fighter for a full year until his contract runs out. Also, if you are a UFC champion and your contract runs out the contract automatically renews itself, so you can't leave the organization or get a raise unless you lose.

    3. The biggest MYTH, that all MMA fighters fight the best all the time. This only happens if you are under exclusive contract with the UFC. If you are promoted by any other organization you do not exist, the pro-wrestling type commentators won't even mention their name and there is ZERO chance of a co-promotion EVER. So if you fight in Dream, Sengoku, Strikeforce etc you can never face a UFC fighter. For example Fedor is recognized as the undisputed linear heavyweight champion of MMA but he will never face any of the UFC heavyweight unless he signs a Don King type exclusive contract with ZUFFA/UFC. In this contract ZUFFA controls you in every way including what sponsors you can use during the show, what appearances you make, movies etc you can do.

    4. All the lower level fighters who are just coming on the scene are being forced to sign a LIFETIME merchandise contract where the UFC could use your name exclusively not only after you leave the organization but after you die. This is the typical pro-wrestling model, a few months ago the #2 welterweight in the world Jon Fitch was verbally threatened and fired for a short period of time because he refused to sign his name to the UFC video game. He eventually signed it because fighters have zero leverage and most of the MMA promotions outside of the UFC are failing badly, none of the fighters will see any of the profits from the video game.

    5. There is a PPV monthly, the UFC get away with this because their fans buy the shows due to the name brand alone, basically they are gullible idiots.

    The UFC gets a free pass by all the media because they are the new cool thing, but they run their business like the WWE. Dana White is their Vince McMahon.
     
  15. Vitor Belfort

    Vitor Belfort Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yea MMA can make the best fighter fight each other without thinking about the money. It's too bad boxing has to many damn promoters than can't agree with each other.