MMA Vs Boxing "Striking and footwork"

Briggs never even fought mma, he fought kickboxing---once, against a wrestler---who wasn't allowed to wrestle because it was kickboxing.

 

First of all I think this may be a poor example.

isn't Leben the immature cry baby that peed on his opponant's beds and got beat at least twice on the recent reality T.V. show?

Silva on the other hand was a professional boxer at least ten years ago and has had way more MMA fights yet has been taken out by four guys who had no boxing training; thus poor logic from most of the above.

Oh and Greco-Roman, judo, special forces etc.. type fighting all involve ground work and are extremely ancient and according to the threads I think most fans would rather see Floyd/Oscar go at it MMA style than waist our boxing airtime

 

Put Cintron in against and of the top ufc streetfighters and he would mostly likely be taken down and knocked out the first round. Cintron is not able to focus consistently and is easily distracted. Talent, training and experience mean nothing if you can't keep your mind on what you need to do. Cintron is a poor candidate to represent boxing in the cage.

 

There is a lot more depth in boxing. A lot more people got into it decades ago whereas the sport of MMA isn't as popular but, if you are talking about styles then boxing is very limited.

 

Cintron is probably the BEST candidate for a boxing turned mma career, big power, very good wrestling background; he has a much better shot than most boxers of not being "taken down and knocked out". He's got a big jump start on most boxers.

He may not be the absolute best boxer, but he would be the only one with a decent shot of being able to get to throw his punches, people without his background would be taken down before they could be effective.

 

*I'm talking about it, because it's something that does get brought up from time to time, so I just wanted to put my two cents in, weather it had been brought up in this thread or not, the old street fighter VS Boxer comes up often.

This MMA guy that I worked with wasn't/isn't a novice, he had been doing it for a long time, started off in jui-jistu &kickboxing I believe, then the last 5 years or so has been getting into boxing &some other disiplines. And sure, I'm low level compared to a decent pro, or heavily decorated am, but I'm 16-4 as an amatuer, and have fought in a few tournaments, (never won any), more gym expereince than actual fights, I'm no expert...but I do know what I'm talking about I just figured it might be interesting for some people to hear about a real life experience, Boxer VS MMA fighter in a boxing ring..thats all, "sparring"--or not. While sparring isn't the real thing, it does get close, I've been in plenty of gym wars that were a lot harder than any of my fights, especially when you have two guys who are fighting hard in there, it gets very heated. He tried to bomb on me, so I fought back, used some cute little moves, threw quick, straight punches, and happened to get the better of him. My point is, some mixed martial artists are not very well schooled in boxing/punching/etc, or boxing footwork. That was my observation, and that is the topic.

As for Shannon Briggs, I had read a few years ago he was involved in a mixed martial arts bout, the source must have been wrong, I don't know a lot about the whole deal, other than I read Shannon KO'd his opponent pretty fast. If it was a kickboxing match, thats pretty impressive.

 

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It was a kickboxing match... against a wrestler. You find that impressive?

 

I haven't read/posted on a regular basis here in a couple years, now I remember why.

 

Me too. It would probably be better if you just read the posts.

A. You can't take criticism when you are being corrected for a mistake.

B. You are too sensitive. This is a message board, everything will be alright.

 

I can take critisism, wise as childish remarks...I'm not big on. I'm not a wise ass to anyone else. You can't get into a decent conversation here without someone saying being rude.

 

Hey man, what part of Maine are you from? (I to live in Vacationland)

 

Well the idea is, that if the boxer doesn't have very good takedown defence, that the MMA guy will go for a takedown straight away and won't spar around for a bit. Even if it was someone like Wanderlei Silva, Tim Sylvia or Lidell, they'd look for a takedown if they knew the guy they were facing was a better striker than them but had no takedown defence. I mean against a boxer they'd just duck down, grab a leg, take them down and submit them, piece of cake.

When Yosuke Nishijima (24-2 15KO's cruiserweight in boxing), had a go in MMA that's how it panned out for him. Against Mark Hunt, Hunt stood and traded with him because he knew he's ****ing impossible to KO pretty much and stopped him, so maybe Mark Hunt would try and stand and trade with boxers, but against everyone else bar Manhoef, he just got subbed.

For comparison purposes, his 24-2 record in boxing ended up translating to 0-5 in MMA.

 

if you watch the old muay thai fighters you would see they look terrible, recently they have studied boxing and took notes and incorporated alot of the techniques (the jab, foot work).