Modern British World Champions who would have never wan a world title in yesteryear

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  1. FLINT ISLAND

    FLINT ISLAND PENYRHEOL Full Member

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    Think back to yesteryear when there only one world title - or maybe two world titles.

    WBC and WBA - regarded as the main two - before slowly but sure alphabet titles started popping up everywhere.

    Good British fighters like Colin Jones and Herol Graham - competed for the proper world titles of their day - but never gained World Championship status.

    They had to fight guys like Don Curry and Julian Jackson - proper world class champions.

    These days the standards have dropped.

    Now average fighters are calling themselves Word Champions.

    wether it be

    WBC
    WBA
    IBF
    WBO
    WBU
    IBO
    IBA
    WBF
    etc

    but what British fighters of the modern era have held a world title of some kind - whatever paper title it was with the word "World Champion" - but never really would have been good enough to be a World Champion of yesteryear.

    I was inspired to write this by a comment made by Enzo Maccarenelli

    who said he was Swansea's first ever World Champion.

    while this is techincally true - all he needed to do was win the WBU World title to achieve this

    on the other hand Swanseas Colin Jones drew for the WBC title - but he will never go down as a World Champion

    Enzo might be good enough to win proper World titles -but as of yet winning the WBU and being awarded the WBO title is not on the same level as Colin Jones drawing for the WBC title against the top contender in the world.

    Standards have dropped.

    Bogus Champions are about.

    But who would be the real deal in yesteryear?

    and who would have never been called World Champion in yesteryear?
     
  2. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Its easier to ask which modern fighters WOULD have won a world title in the old days.
     
  3. FLINT ISLAND

    FLINT ISLAND PENYRHEOL Full Member

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    well I kind of asked both ways.


    Ones who would and ones who wouldnt.

    Alex Arthur would not have.

    Joe Calzaghe would have - maybe - but not a certainty - with the likes of James Toney, Roy Jones, Chris Eubank, Nigel Benn
     
  4. JonOli

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    Joe Calzaghe would have had to have fought at middle or LH prior 1984. Out of his era he would have hadto have faced a prime Hopkins, and Jones to win or defend a title. He may well have been fighting Toney, not Eubank at the start of his career as well (not sure about that though, and when Toney ballooned).
     
  5. FLINT ISLAND

    FLINT ISLAND PENYRHEOL Full Member

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    EXACTLY not even a fighter as good as Calzaghe would have been certain to win a World title

    and remeber you only get a few shots at the title

    once maybe

    twice if you lucky

    three or four times like Frank Bruno if you very lucky
     
  6. dwilson

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    Ricky Hatton, Joe Calzaghe, David Haye and Lennox Lewis for a starter.
     
  7. TommyV

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    What period are we talking about? When there was just the 'World' title? When they were unified as the WBA/WBC? When it was the WBA/WBC/IBF but prior to the WBO title?
     
  8. TommyV

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    Wrong.
     
  9. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    That would be my starter list. The next tier (due to the opposition at the time) would be Benn and Eubank.
     
  10. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Lennox Lewis would have schooled any heavyweight post 1980 :deal
     
  11. dwilson

    dwilson Guest

    Witter, Naz, Harrison and Collins.
     
  12. JonOli

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    Hatton, Floyd, Cotto, Witter, Tszue, and Judah would have all been fighting for one title at one time - though they later vacated the division - perhaps they wouldn't have so easily if titles were so scarse.
     
  13. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You have got to be ****ing kidding me...Lennox Lewis wouldn't have won a World Title in years gone past?


    There's not an era I can think of that he wouldn't have. Even in Ali's hey day, Ernie Terrell grabbed the WBA bauble...so why not Lewis?

    Maybe in the day of Joe Louis...but that's about it.
     
  14. GazOC

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    Naz is another, not Harrison though.
     
  15. GazOC

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    Isn't this question just who would have managed to get world title against the guys around at their time if their was only two titles? The likes of Lewis v Ali or Hatton v Pryor doesn't come into in surely?
     
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