Modern Classics - Wladimir Klitschko Vs Lamon Brewster I - April 10th 2004

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  1. Terminator_X

    Terminator_X Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As usual you get your facts totally wrong.

    Yes Dundee did widen a hole in Ali's gloves but in actual effect it didn't really give Ali any more extra time between the rest period. They looked at the original footage and it came to no more then 65 seconds between rounds.
     
  2. Terminator_X

    Terminator_X Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who exactly gives Lewis credit for his victory over McCall in the rematch? i certainly don't.

    It was actually DISGUSTING that Brewster was allowed to fight in the rematch when he was blind in 1 eye, no way he would have been licensed in America which is why he had all his later fights in Germany.

    Wlad gets no credit whatsoever for the Brewster rematch win and he also punked out of fighting Corrie Sanders in a rematch too.
     
  3. Brighton bomber

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    It was a very entertaining fight, great come back from Brewster.

    This fight basically showed all of Wlad's flaws. He had never learned to relax in the ring, which is the main reason why I always rated Vitali as the better brother even early on. Wlad was constantly expending energy, when he wasn't punching, he was manhandling Brewster, leaning on him or pushing him away. He was taking deep breaths as early as mid way through the first round because he barely spent a second not exerting himself he was basically doing the equivalent of running at 400m pace but for 3 mins at a time, anyone would gas doing what he did.

    This was Wlad's first fight in the US since being KO'ed by Sanders and I think he was too eager to impress. He was looking for the early impressive KO and it cost him. Many other fighters would have folded under the punishment but Brewster hung in there and in the end it paid off.
     
  4. Mr "T"

    Mr "T" Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The Klitschko's don't trust the US press and you are evidence of that

    He blasted Brewster out
     
  5. dinovelvet

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    It only stands to reason Brewster would of gassed out first since he was doing every thing Wlad was doing only getting punched back a lot more.

    Many, many HW's fought a pace like that for 12-15 rounds and didn't gas.

    Getting tired after 4 rounds is no excuse for a professional athlete.

    Panic and getting battered to the ribs was the cause of Wlads exhaustion so you have to credit Brewster with that and not pin it on Wlads short comings.

    Wlad is just a very overrated boxer and Brewster was too much for him , who is no world beater himself
     
  6. madballster

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    It was a great fight, big respect to both fighters. I actually wrote off Wlad after the fight. I thought he's damaged goods and will stay that forever.
     
  7. Brighton bomber

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    Most heavyweights aren't 2 metres tall and weight 240lbs. Though Wlad's stamina is clearly an issue, it's another reason why he clinches so much to slow the pace of the fight down to a manageable pace.

    I do give credit to Brewster he didn't over exert himself anywhere near as much as Wlad did. He threw fewer punches being more selective, when in the clinches he didn't resist much so didn't foolishly waste energy against the bigger stronger man. Though he did take a lot of punishment, he waited for Wlad to tire, biding his time and when the moment came he pounced and as I said before not many heavies could have taken what he did and turn it around.

    I agree that version of Wlad was very over rated, it was clear that it was Vitali who was the better brother. Wlad had the speed and power and athleticism but he didn't know how to use his height and reach to create distance often being too stationary after punching, wasted so much energy with pointless movement and was not very smart as he kept making the same mistakes. His foot work was also terrible at that point and his stance too wide.
     
  8. kk17

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    i still think something was wrong this Wladimir in this fight. Maybe he was drugged or ill or someting else .

    Respect to Brewster he did what he had to do and was champ for 2 years
     
  9. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Yeah something was clearly wrong with Wlad.... I think it might have been adrenaline dump, he was stopped purely on exhaustion... It's clear to anyone who isn't a complete ******, or a massive Klitschko hater that something was very wrong with Wlad, and that Brewsters punches had nothing to do with it. I've never seen anything like that in all of my years of watching boxing.
     
  10. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Do you know what Adrenaline dump is??? Wlad was in complete control of the fight, he was outboxing and pummeling Brewster... You've never made a post about Wlad that wasn't negative towards him, nobody gives a damn about what you think....
     
  11. dinovelvet

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    Agreed
    Brewster was coming forward, pushing the pace. It saps more energy being under the clinch than being the won clinching.
    Even under the clinch , Brewster never stopped banging the body.
    Pushing the action like that exerts more energy.
    Boxers are conditioned for this. Wlad not being a natural fighter had more to do with it that a stamina issue.
    Wlad didn't know what to do when the ref took away his clinching. 3 warnings in round 1.

    He didn't know how to move or punch. Judging by the way he performs today, he still doesn't.

    A lot is made of improvements under Steward, but what did he really do for him?

    Vitali didn't need Steward to shut out Peter and Sanders. Hilenius didn't need Steward to easily out box Peter without a single clinch.

    Wlad was well under Manny's guidance when he excessively mauled , clinched , and back humped Sam Peter and all the rest of the guys he faced.
     
  12. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Grow up dude and stop making excuses.
     
  13. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    You're the one who needs to grow up.... 95% of your posts on this board are just of you bashing Wlad. Excuses? You're the one who can't seem to admit that Wlad is a great heavyweight despite the fact that he's held the division down for the better part of a decade, I would think that after being wrong so many times, that you would give the man at least SOME credit.
     
  14. dinovelvet

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    Ill never give the man credit after what he did to Povetkin who Ive followed for a long time.

    I don't get behind cheaters and dishonourable sportsmen. What do you want from me? Is that so bad?..
     
  15. KO KIDD

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    Wlads offense in his first fight with Steward was astounding

    His fluid combos and footwork was possibly the best of his career

    Won every round easily looked on the verge of victory and miraculously gassed

    Brewster still had to survive a brutal onslaught to win