MODERN DAY GREATS vs OLD SCHOOL GREATS debate

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  1. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    So explain how you think Rocky could beat Tyson then.

     
  2. Thread Stealer

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    of course.

    ali, at 6'3 and 210-215 in his prime, with an 81 inch reach, was too small.

    the klitschkos only lost to giants like the 6'4, 225 lb, 77 inch reach corrie sanders. or the 6'2, 226 lb, 77 inch reach lamon brewster. or the 6 foot, 210 lb, 74 inch reach, monster hitting chris byrd.
     
  3. sherbert

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    Wlad Just Whopped Brewster and Vitali won every round in the Bryd fight until he had to retire with a torn muscle in his shoulder. Sorry man weak argument. You need to know your boxing before you post inaccurate information.
     
  4. Thread Stealer

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    blah blah....he was winning before he lost. typical quitali fanboy argument. who won the fight again? Thank you.

    and wlad needing two times to beat a rather limited brewster (who wasn't even licensed to fight in the states due to his detached retina) hardly shows how ali would not be able to beat wlad.
     
  5. sherbert

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    It's called facts. Wlad won the rematch.
     
  6. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

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    pryor would wipe out 140 if he was fighting now. the 80's was a very fruitful era for boxing's evolution with freaks like tyson and hearns. pre 40's or 50's fighters are probably what i'd consider ancient. some people with extremely heavy old school bias like bert sugar do get annoying.
     
  7. sherbert

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    Yes Pryor would destroy all of the current 140 pound fighters.
     
  8. Thread Stealer

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    here are some more facts:

    wlad lost the first fight to brewster, when lamon didn't have a detached retina.

    shitali lost to 210 lb slapping byrd.

    quitali beat a grand total of three ring ranked top 10 heavyweights, all of whom were fat, old, coming off a long layoff, or all 3.

    but surely, ali (whom while great, was beatable just like any fighter is beatable) would hardly stand a chance at beating quitali or wlad.

    he is obviously inferior to the likes of corrie sanders, lamon brewster, chris byrd, and a 37 year old, inactive for a year, undertrained lummox lewis (whom lost to the great hasim 'oleg is my daddy' rahman the last time he came into a fight underprepared).
     
  9. Caliboxing

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    I don't know why people put so much emphasis on size instead of pure boxing skills, speed and endurance. A 6'3", 215lb Ali has enough size and also speed and endurance advantages to beat both Lewis and the Klitschkos.
     
  10. Addie

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    It's starting to be make me sick how people favour the likes of Vitali and Wlad over Muhammad Ali. Are you ****ing kidding me? Ali was faster, had better footwork, put more combinations together, could dance for 12 rounds in his prime, faced better opposition, knocked out bigger hitters, and took hit from bigger hitters than either Vitali and Wlad. Those two are complete jokes and stand out in possibly the worst era of Heavyweights that the sport of boxing has ever seen. :patsch :patsch :patsch :patsch
     
  11. I TOTALLY AGREE:yep Vitaly is best known for losing his biggest fight and getting half his face torn off in the process, and quitting against featherfisted Chris Byrd, Ali fought Ken Norton with a busted jaw:deal and VK can't even train for a fight without getting hurt, VK is the most over-rated Heavyweight probaly in the last 10 years..Ali would have boxed circles around VK..
    Ali would have KO'D glass jaw Wlad, and stopped him, Wlad was KTFO BY Sanders, Purrity, and Brewester, Ali was never stopped in his prime and beat way better fighter's than both Klitchko's put together..
     
  12. Addie

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    Exactly.

    People are starting to believe in this new myth that the sport has evolved. As it hell. Tennis has evolved and maybe Football, but with Boxing the only thing that has evolved is the amount of money boxers are earning which is causing the majority of the biggest talents to protect their envestment by fighting easy opposition. You had none of that back in the day, everybody fought everyone cus it was about pride and proving to be the best.
     
  13. :amen
     
  14. sthomas

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    Don't mess with Ali. He's timeless. He KO'd a 1994 champ.
     
  15. Still~style

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    completely agree.