"Modern" greats who were dominated\stopped more than once during their prime

Yeah, fair enough for the Cokes bouts I'd say. The Benvenuti fight was probably past Luis' best, but he was still a capable fighter, and had the style to trouble Nino, as was shown prior to the stoppage.

 

I think Gatti was a great fighter, NOT Henry Armstorng great, nor those just behind him in terms of greats but not Elite.

Gatti could box lovely, he showed that, and we all know he could fight and was game as _uck too.

anyway there is GREAT, Great and great or very good with not always much in it.
I think Gatti belongs at the end of that scale, but certainly a fighter history should document as among the best!

 

Just read this bit now...

 

Yeah he's a good shout but only because a lot of people classify him as 'great', I certainly don't.

 

nelson v whitaker and fenech(maybe a draw but he got dominated for most of the fight imo)

 

No, he was exciting.

I guess you rank Chacon among the very greatest of all time?

 

I never look at achievements alone, too much Bull**** and Skullduggery to completely give a fighter 100% pass on his achievements.

I look at the TOP fighters, their Longievity at the Top, thier opponents, were they fighting UP out of their weight at the top and who's more likely to beat who more often than not - on EQUAL Playing fields...

when you try access fighters like that, you realise just how competetive and just how great many of these guys were/are.

there are hundreds of greats, there's NOT hundreds of Greb's, SRR's, Pep's or Armstrongs, but yes there are hundreds of greats who compare very well with one another.

 

Gatti was never at the "TOP".

 

Exactly Gatti doesn't qualify under any of those criteria.

 

For Lopez, I would drop the Sanchez losses as he was not 'prime' at that stage of his career. I would include the Fukuyama loss instead.

 

gatti was never at the top, he was top 3 a couple of times but that's it.

i mentioned him purely cos of the hall.

 

I know Luf, was just referring to thistle's posts.

 

:good

 

Cervantes was maybe a shade green at the time Locche dominated him and then a tiny tad past his best when Benitez did something partly comparable, and the losses were well over 4 years apart, so I'm not sure if he'd qualify. Still, there aren't a huge number of instances throughout history where such a prolific fighter was so well beaten near his best.

Maybe Sugar Ramos could count depending on how you view his losses to Saldivar and Ortiz (second time).

 

Cervantes was pretty much set in his prime when Benitez schooled him, if you ask me.