"Modern" greats who were dominated\stopped more than once during their prime

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  1. FAT_TONEY

    FAT_TONEY Active Member Full Member

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    Though I agree that Toney should've lost that fight with Tiberi, in no way did he get dominated... it was a pretty close fight, with Toney landing the harder, accurate shots, nearly knocking Tiberi out in the early rounds, but Tiberi winning all the later rounds due to a higher activity level. I had it 115-113 for Tiberi
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I thought tiberi won very clearly if I'm being honest.
     
  3. FAT_TONEY

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    In no way did Toney get dominated in that fight. Toney looked very bad during the last 2 rounds, because he had cramps and couldn't even walk, but he was the better man in the first half of the fight.

    Roy Jones did dominate Toney, but Tiberi... Tiberi was lucky that he faced such a weak and sick version of Toney who was physically finished after 5 rounds. Tiberi was close to getting knocked out in the first round if I remember correctly. Well, at the end of the day Tiberi didn't get lucky after all, because he got robbed. Tiberi should have got the nod here, but it was still a close fight.
     
  4. NoNeck

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    Tarver if you count the loses to Harding and Hopkins. The Ring did give him the award for best light heavy of the 00's and he was an ATG amateur, so I think he makes the cut for greatness.
     
  5. NoNeck

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    Corrales against Floyd and Casamayor.

    Hatton against Floyd and Pac.

    Tsyzu against Vince Phillips and Hatton (arguably).

    Terry Norris against Simon Brown and Julian Jackson.

    Jackson against McClellan and McCallum (didn't like those Mc's)
     
  6. MAG1965

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    I am not sure Hatton and Corrales are modern greats. Tsyzu is the closest.
     
  7. NoNeck

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    I think Corrales is more accomplished than Tsyzu and was better pfp when he was at 130 than Tsyzu ever was.

    Hatton was legitimately on the pfp lists, but might fall short on accomplishments.
     
  8. Ducktali

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    1- Lewis wasn't stopped or dominated against MCCALL I.
    It was a blatant robbery.. Mccall was insane and he would not have been able to finish Lewis off.

    The Ref was Don King's corrupt friend and even HBO called him out on it.

    2- Lewis wasn't even PRIME against MCCALL.

    3- Lewis was past prime against Rahman.


    Lennox Lewis Time Line:


    Gary Mason-Tyrell Biggs- Elite Fighter. Pre-Boxing Prime. Pre-Physical Prime. Highly Motivated

    Levi Billups- Razer Ruddock- Elite Fighter. Pre-Boxing Prime. Pre-Physical Prime. Ruddock was the peak of this stage.


    Due to Riddick Bowe ducking.. Lewis began a steady regression.



    Bruno-Mccall - Regression Period. Worst with every fight.. still an elite fighter though and would dominate everyone today (will KO Current Wlad in a tough fight)




    Morrison-Mercer-Mccall II. Early Stages of Boxing Prime. Physical Prime. Highly Motivated

    Golota-Briggs-Mavoric-Holyfield I
    Boxing Prime. Physical Prime
    Highly Motivated

    Tua-Grant- Boxing Prime- Past Physical Prime- Highly Motivated



    Rahman I - Past Boxing Prime.. Past Physical Prime. Zero Motivation.


    Rahman II - Past Boxing Prime. Past Physical Prime. Highly Motivated

    Tyson- Way Past Boxing Prime. Way Past Physical Prime. Highly Motivated


    Vitali- tko6 - Shot.


    Lewis was already way past prime against Tyson. He only looked great because Tyson was even more past it and utterly shot.

    Lewis-Tyson was a past prime fighter (physically and in a boxing sense) vs a completely shot fighter.

    By the time Vitali came around. Lewis was a ****ing corpse .
     
  9. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It wasn't an outclassing or anything of the sort, but watching it with a slight agenda against Toney, I think you could go as wide as 9-3. In reality it probably was closer to the 8-4-1 or 7-5 mark.