Modern heavyweights are BIGGER not BETTER

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  1. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Go to bed. Its past your bedtime little guy.
     
  2. LordSouness

    LordSouness Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Same logic could be applied to Joshua and Chocolatito, doesn't mean he wouldn't maul him.
     
  3. Reg

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    Louis would lay David Price out too. But when it comes to the Klitschkos or Lewis, my money is on them.
     
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  4. RingKing75

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    So is mine.
     
  5. kostya by ko

    kostya by ko Boxing Addict

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    I just wonder ... if bigger fighters don't get an early KO, are they going to fade if it went to 15 rounds (more in the case of the real old timers)?
     
  6. DoubleJab666

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    Some serious revisionist history going on re: other threads on this matter. The problem is we're dealing with people who have zero imagination, so everything is devolved in number crunching and the bigger is better, talent is secondary argument is so easy to make.

    Yet when that equation is flipped - hereby known as the Valuev Conundrum - suddenly the word talent is rolled out as the key determining factor. It's comical to read the number crunchers suddenly flip the agenda when it suits a defence of their man. Joshua beats Vaulev because he's a more talented fighter (true, I agree), but when anyone makes the same case for Ali beating AJ, we hear 'but AJ is too big, he's too tall'.

    One of the intellectually-challenged eventually screamed 'A GOOD BIG ONE BEATS A GOOD SMALL ONE!!' while singularly failing to recognise the key word in that phrase was 'good' and he was unwittingly making the case for the view opposing his own.
     
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  7. Farmboxer

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    Some modern heavyweights are better and bigger, but the old timers were brutal fighters,some extremely talented, but yes, usually they were smaller...................Marciano was only 187lbs. and around 5 feet 10.5 inches tall................but Tyson was about the same height, although he was heavier, Tyson and Cus used to watch old fight films for hours, Tyson is an excellent boxing historian.............
     
  8. james5000

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    Why do we have weight divisions any way if size don't matter?

    I'd love to see Lomachenko proves he's the top dog? My money says Cojanu puts ass in a coma and Conjanu is meant to be a bum!

    Valuev is just big, he has no other attributes that make a good fighter and yet he was a World Champion, that's go to prove something?

    I bet AJ would beat Valuev's ass at anything in the gym! Usually the bigger guy is physically stronger too but Valuev is just a freakshow and his only attribute was size.
     
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  9. DoubleJab666

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    Who said size doesn't matter?
     
  10. james5000

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    You created the Valuev conundrum, so I am guessing it's you chap.
     
  11. Birmingham

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    lewis and Wlad weren't fat
     
  12. Brighton bomber

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    It's pretty clear to me that heavyweights of the past had better skills in general. But that's to be expected, a welterweight can do things a heavyweight can't do, you get to a certain size it limits certain things.

    Mayweather has a better defence than any heavyweight that has ever lived. Does that mean I'd pick him to beat Ali, Tyson, Holyfield, hell no.

    Size has it's advantages and can overcome a lack of skills if the disparity is great enough and the bigger fighter has good skills as well.
     
  13. On_The_Ropes

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    Nostalgia plays great tricks on peoples thinking when determining how great past athletes & sports teams are. As with most things in life, the further away something is in the past the more we look back at it with fondness.
     
  14. Spook Muzaaak

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    Anthony Joshua will own ANY boxer that has stepped foot in the ring.

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  15. Spook Muzaaak

    Spook Muzaaak New Member Full Member

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    The kid still hasn't hit his peak. Imagine what he's gonna be like in years to come

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