Modern heavyweights (height and weight) vs heavyweights from the 70's on

The 90s is modern and is the start of the whole SHW argument. You're foolish if you deny that. But you already made that clear by calling Price a top HW.

 

Saying that the 90s is the proclaimed start of what people call the SHW era and saying that people started using the term SHW in the 90s are two completely different things. If this is as far as your reading comprehension goes then why bother continuing this argument on an overly rehashed topic?

 

Still waiting for you to list the full group of one year, any year, of rings top ten hws from the 70s of 80s and compare them to the current list. Or for that matter, any ring list from this decade.

 

This is my post from yesterday that got Super Piccolo fired up about the current heavyweights.

"I just watched the fight, Joshua moved well, he jabbed, he kept his right hand up beside his jaw, he is a well schooled fighter. Parker is something that few heavyweights have had to contend with. He's 6-4, 235ish, has an extensive amateur background, and he is strong and quick. He isn't a lumbering 1973 George Foreman, (though Parker is much bigger), or a frail Cleveland Williams, he is an athletic, big, fighter. Put Joshua in with Zora Folley or Ken Norton you'd see highlight reel knockouts, but fighters who are as big and quick as Parker are not easy to beat or knockout. A lot of nostalgic people would get their feelings hurt if their favorite of the past could be transported to the present and stuck into a ring with Parker.

I think the people who are so quick to criticize heavyweights of today don't understand the difference in size and strength that these boxers and their opponents possess compared to the fighters from the 60s, 70s and before."

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...showed-he-can-win-without-getting-hit.605127/

 

Foreman, wasn't even in shape at 220. Against Ali he was fatigued in a few rounds. At less than 230 he was falling around like a drunk against Jimmy Young. At about 215 he was again fatigued and falling around against Gregorio Peralta. Parker can go 12 rounds easily. Parker weighs in at 235 or more and his stamina is much better than Foreman's at 216. Parker fought a well conditioned, hard punching, 6-6, 245 pound man for 12 rounds and was in much better condition late in the fight than Foreman was against light punching Ali, and Jimmy Young.

Today's heavyweights are year round professional boxers. They don't blow up between fights and then train 4-6 weeks. Take your nostalgia to somebody who doesn't know better.

 

The above bold underlined facts hurt many fans, you forgot to mention no cigarette smoke could ever compete on the pro level while that was normal back in the day. But stop, some can't take truth very well when it hurts their favorite old unbeatable favorites

 

Heavyweight are bigger today than in previous era's the empirical evidence of that is clear. Yes you'll have some fighters of the past era who are just as big as the modern super heavies today, but on average heavyweights are taller and heavier in the current modern era.

Question is why is that? Fact is we as a species as a whole are getting taller. See article below, over the last century those in countries with better nutrition have seen a rise in height, those that have't are poorer countries in places like Africa where getting enough food let alone proper nutrition is still an issue. Only anomaly is the US which is shorter, though this is likely due to immigration from smaller ethnic groups. So if past heavies had access to the quality and amount of food we have, we'd likely have seen a 6'5-6'6" Foreman, a 6'4 Ali, a 6'2" Frazier etc.

https://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/26/health/human-height-changes-century/index.html

Heavyweights are heavier too. That will come down to 2 things, one obesity, we have a lot of out of shape heavyweights and the fact that boxers are now only having to fight 12 rounds not 15. So the physical requirements are slightly different, you don't need as much endurance so you can have bigger stronger fighters instead.

 

I think forman hits as hard or harder than today's heavy weights