Modern Nutrition

You'd have to be a troll to favor John L. Sullivan over Pac. Just sayin'.

 

Modern nutrition in the heavyweight division, unfortunately seems to mean Burger King.

 

i know this is a joke thread but...

it can seem like nostalgia influences people disproportionately regarding boxing, but i think there's a good reason for that...

1) dedication to training has always been prevalent in boxing circles, fighters sixty or so years ago were just as well conditioned as the top fighters today. this is not the case in team sports like football, that's soccer, or others like tennis. i'm not saying that the quality of those two sports has necessarily increased (argument for another day), but the sports have advanced physically in a way that boxing hasn't.

2) for most sports, more money means more matches (see football again, and tennis again, although the picture is more complicated in tennis). for boxing, though, more money means less of a need to risk your life! fighters in the first half of the twentieth century simply fought more and tested themselves further, so their obscene achievements followed.

3) boxing has weight limits. 140 pounds will always be ten stone, and the strongest man weighing no more than that can only be so strong and fast. the human body has limits! that said, if you remove weight restrictions (and therefore to some extent height restrictions - there will always be freaks like hearns, but generally someone weighing ten and a half stone isn't going to be that tall!) then the sport's physical side will surge on... footballers and tennis players are bigger, stronger and faster than ever before. also, look at usain bolt and track.

my point is that statements that may seem to be overly nostalgic will probably turn out to be true more often in boxing than in other sports.

 

they do fight black people though, you have to give them that atleast

 

That is hardly a big deal in an era where there are not many black contenders worth avoiding.

 

How many of them could've been, if equal opportunities were in practise back then?

That era is an absolute disgrace and a joke and it does not deserve to be celebrated. There was never any World champions, there were only White North American champions posing as them

 

Thats total BS.

There were some periods when the top black contenders were loosing to the second and third teir of white contenders.

There wasn't anything for the champions to avoid.

But in any event, I was reffering to the curent era.

 

I wonder why all strength and track field records are modern? Yeah, and the carry over on other sports, that BS right?

And I bet George Mikan was a better ballplayer than Michael Jordan.

No blacks, how the hell is that the golden era? John L. Sullivan was a racist piece or garbage. Along with many other so-called champions back then. The Golden Era is the 70s and 80s, not the damn 1760s.

Aye Lass, Aye.

 

If i was to call one decade golden, it'd be the 40's. So many tough fighters that all fought each other. Some of the most impressive fighters on film too

 

But many Blacks were excluded. The murderer's row for example.

I just don't get it that people will always remember the '10s and '20s as the Golden Era.

 

Thats just the last, dying remnants of old whitey. There glory days were a time when they had to ban black people from winnig titles, just so that they could hold them. Despite everything stacked against the 2nd class citizens, 2 of 3 best fighters to emerge from that era were black. Sam Langford and Jack Johnson.

 

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btw black fighters have won titles since Dixon in 1890.

 

For sure. And I hate to say it, I would question MANY decisions during that era that went against black fighters. I mean, back then guys like Johnson and Langford had to knock these guys out or lose if they were fighting a white opponent. How many judges and refs got death threats?