Modern Vs Old fighters.

Bingo, these modern fighters gas out in 12 round fights.

 

they usually gas out a few rounds before too like by 7-9 they are pretty shot, even guys like Canelo that aren't HW

I remember when I tried to take Canelo seriously and watched a highlight reel of him dropping guys with body shots, I was like lol no way those shots would phase Duran or Hagler

I had no idea who Szpilka was, he did get legitimately knocked out, it also didn't take me long to come across the term "polish glass" when I was reading about him

 

Marvin Hart isn't on film as far as I know.

 

You can have the the diet and medical advantages you want, but if you don't fight anybody good you will never reach your potential and most of todays guys would rather stick hot pokers in their eyes than fight somebody who can actually fight.

 

Yep it is obvious just watching these guys that they can barely go 12, and we ain't talkin hard rounds either! Oldtimers could go 15 at a higher pace, with a higher activity level & they generally moved around more. They fought much more brutal & vicious fights.

Oldtimers were HUNGRY for the title, at a time when being the champ MEANT something. Now, there's 17 or 18 divisions with 3 or 4 'champions' in each? That is a disgrace to true boxing champions of the past, and now championship belts mean nothing.

 

What!? And ruin my imposing 24-0 record that I meticulously built over the last 12 years by fighting twice a year against any stiff my manager could dig up? Not a chance, baby.

 

Does anyone have punchstats backing up that old school fighters threw more punches and fought at a higher pace per round?

 

I wasn't talking about punch output, but rather that the oldtimers look busier, and the fights seem to be at a higher tempo. This is all my opinion, of course.

 

Well said, Flash. I think that sums it up nicely.

 

Then the old timer hits them on the chin, and none of it matters any more.

 

There have been loads of fights between moderns, where the intensity and tempo can compare to the busiest fights from "back in the day".

How about Morales - Barrera, Vázquez - Márquez, Bradley - Provodnikov, Corrales - Castillo, Ward - Gatti... just to name a few of the most obvious ones.

Sure, we can find modern stinkers as well - but, generally speaking, I don think modern fights take a back seat to the old ones, if we're talking tempo and "busyness".

For example, I'd like someone to point me in the direction of old fights that beat this one, if we're discussing tempo, heart, intensity and all-out effort:
2006 Mahyar Monshipour vs Somsak Sithchatchawal FIGHT OF THE YEAR - YouTube

 

There's a whole book where CompuBox did its thing on Ali's performances. Since that's the canonical *Golden Age Of Boxing*, someone should just compare those to more recent heavyweight bouts. I doubt the tempo will differ much.

 

That goes back to the difference in glove size. In the old days your first line of defense was movement- you moved in and out of range. Now, you put your hands up.

 

Ali vs Frazier I (15 rounds)
Frazier - 285/508
Ali - 257/707

Ali vs Frazier II (12 Rounds)
Frazier - 172/406
Ali - 181/720

Ali vs Frazier III (14 Rounds)
Frazier - 327/600
Ali - 353/768

In comparision, to somewhat similar style clash in recent years:
Fury vs Chisora I (12 rounds)
Fury - 295/775
Chisora - 115/312


Or:

LaMotta vs Robinson VI (13 Rounds)
Robinson - 394/940
LaMotta - 286/722

... here those 2 fights I thought might be somewhat comparable:
Spence vs Porter (12 Rounds) (Welterweights, but probably similar to weight to LaMotta and Robinson in the ring)
Spence - 221/745
Porter - 172/744

Golovkin vs Canelo II (Here middleweights too)
Golovkin - 234/879
Canelo - 202/622

*Source is compubox site.

Edit: It's not really to back up any claim, just thought it will be interesting and worth adding to overall discussion.

 

There’s film of Marvin Hart?