Modern Vs Old fighters.

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Austinboxing, Sep 7, 2022.

  1. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I have absolutely no interest in tallying NC fights from any period. I agree that the films we have from the 1920s are usually highlight films that do not offer much insight into the stamina or fighting pace of fighters then visa vs now. So, in response to your observation of the lack of old film footage, I was offering the suggestion that films from 1950s offer the first opportunity to look at complete fights and make comparisons about fighters' stamina from then versus now. I haven't made that comparison, so I have no opinion about it. I merely offer the 1950 fights as a path for those who care enough to make comparisons. That was the sole reason for my participation in this thread. Any other comments were just gratuitous remarks which you and anyone else are free to take as meaningless blather if you wish.
     
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    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So can we agree, that when it comes to the NC bouts from the 20s, and whether or not the fans of the time were used to more action-packed fights than today - you have really no idea what you're talking about?
     
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    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I've posted my ideas previously. Do you have trouble with your comprehension?
     
  4. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, not at all - what I do have trouble with, is posters who make absurd claims, that they can't back up.
     
  5. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I backed it up with my thoughts about the issue. If that's not enough for you then I can be of no help with your dilemma.
     
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    Sure 15 rounds I would expect a good modern boxer to adjust to over time, but 25, 40, 60, etc rounds? Half these guys get gassed past 8 rounds
     
  7. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, imagine today's under-trained boxers going 60 action-packed rounds... no chance in Hell, they could ever do that! That the oldtimers were able to, just goes to illustrate how superior conditioned they must have been "back in the day".
     
  8. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's not like most oldtimers were training for 15 rounders all the time. In fact many would not participate in a scheduled 15 runder, before they got a world title shot - and when they did, they adjusted.

    Tami Mauriello had gone 10 rounds only once, when he got a shot at Gus Lesnevich - where (at the age of 17!) he took the champ to a split decision over 15 rounds. Wilfred Benitez had never been past 10 rounds, when he stepped up and outpointed Cervantes over 15. And Randy Turpin had never been more than 8 rounds, when he got a shot at Robinson - but, as we all know, adjusted just fine. Why would modern boxers be any different?
     
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    MarvelousMarvinGolovkin Kownackis belly button lint Full Member

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    Based on what? Who has Wilder fought?
     
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    Moggy94 Active Member Full Member

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    I mean he fought Fury three times whose better than Lyle and Ramos who both rocked Foreman and Frazier.

    Again remember I never said Wilder would win
     
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    I know, I'm just basing your power thing, Fury has been knocked down by at least 2 other fighters who aren't known for power in his career so Fury isn't a great judge to be fair
     
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    I'll take every fighter, in every division, to decisively destroy the correlative from last week, last year, last decade and last century. It's equivalent to the notion of the ever expanding universe. It is the ever increasing skilled athlete, always happening, always getting better. This is the best of all possible worlds but tomorrow is even better.
     
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  13. Vic The Gambler

    Vic The Gambler Active Member Full Member

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    Very true…one such record is from 1964:a sprinter called Bob Hayes (I think it’s Bob,but on memory I can’t recall the first name properly… but definitely Hayes) ran a 4x100m relay leg in 8.6 seconds. 8.6 seconds!!! Not even the mighty modern day world record holding sprinting legend Usain Bolt ran as fast as that in his many relay legs.
     
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    https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&r...os/bob-hayes&usg=AOvVaw0fYbbHOwmEPDn2fYBBetAV
     
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