Excellent assessment. And I really thought Cotto was gonna war it out with Shane in that fight but he surprised the hell out of me by doing more boxing instead of being aggressive.
Manny is not a good boxer ? The whole reason why he became the best boxer in the world P4P is because of his improved boxing skills. Manny gets little credit for having some of the best footwork in the game especially in and out footwork. He is on his toes at all times and it is his footwork that enables him to use angles and change direction on his punches. He also has become a great counter puncher with both hands and throws the best combinations in the sport. Those are not boxing skills ? When he is not boxing it is only because of his heart and willingness to exchange where he has shown he can outland just about anybody. maybe it is not conventional boxing but is boxing at it's best and the nuances he has makes him even harder to box because when you box him you will get hit with punches you cannot see.
ODLH - was only stopped 2x one by a top 5 mw of all time. Winky Wright - was stopped on some bias **** in his 20th something fight and since was never stopped or even being closed to being stopped for the rest of his career. Vernon Forest (rip) - only stopped by a prime mayorga, which to ths day is the only guy who gave the viper hell in the ring. Cotto - he had cotto out on his feet, then he lets cotto outbox him the last 2 rds to lose the fight. cant help shane on that one, he blew that fight kinda like clottey did against cotto.the both had cotto out and still loss :-( Mayweather - enough said alot of those guys you mentioned were hard as **** to beat let alone ko, especially at the time he fought those guys. i think wright was the only one stopped when he fought shane but that was like 20 something fights and over 10 yrs ago. ed lover " C'mon Son ! Now has manny koed any elite fighters i ask you :huh Morrales - Elite in his prime hell yeah, buy the time he got in the ring with manny he was past his best but still a good fighter. Barrera - same as Morrales, elite in his prime. past his best when he got it on with manny. Diaz - was not elite ODLH - was not elite at the time, part time fighter and grossly weight drained. Hatton - If he was elite to you then so is Margarito and Mosley did stop him. Cotto - Cotto my boy Cotto.well you can call him elite, but i still think after what margo did to him he would never be the same. i still think that, cotto went into the ring and after 4rds was broken.ill give many cotto but its hard because i think cotto is almost done.ill' know after his rematch with margo at a full 154 what he has left. alot of elite fighters manny stopped were either way passed there prime or serverly weight drained or both. alot of times it was both, i aslo think todays shane could have stopped those same fighters manny did had he fought them at that time. how come manny could not stop margo who was off a whole year and grossly weight drained as well ? he hit him with ever punch in the book. shane got his ass out of there in 7rds. and out of the elite fighters shane did not ko, could manny have koed them ? those same fighters at the time they fought shane vs todays 2 handed manny pacman.hell im not even sure manny beats let alone ko a prime forrest, odlh, wright, cotto or mayweather. shane fought animals in there primes and there proper weight classes. that might not mean **** to you, but these are the intangibles that are often over looked when talking pacman and who has beat and or stopped. IM JUST SAYING !!!! i still got manny winning the fight by ud, mama aint raise no fool. but it want be a walk in the park for manny either.
To say they are shot fighters is a little bit of a stretch. If that was the logic than Manny is well past his prime and not the same since Torrecompo knocked him out in 1996 and Singsurat in 1999. Some fighters improve later in their careers or at the very least you are negating how important "ring experience" is. If Manny brought these guys back out of retirement and beat them that is another thing but we are talking the fighters that are the most regarded at WW who have and will go on to win more fights in the near future. Clottey, Cotto, Margarito.
Shane has always been a bit technically flawed. He's got great pnching power, but only when the guy is standing right in front of him. Once you give him movement he gets lost. Mora made him look ridiculously awkward. Pacquiao has some of the best footwork in the game , if he decides to box Shane, Shane isn't going to get anytihng off.
i think the little guys were shot or at the very least being aimed at. i think the bigger guys were weight drained and or coming off of brutal ko losses and inactivity.i dont want take **** away from manny because i had him losing every fight since jmm rematch or odlh, which ever came first.but still put things in proper prespective or what i think is.