Money can’t live down Manny

You're not wrong, but Mayweather is lacking that signature win.

If Pacquiao had beaten Mayweather it would have been a superb addition.

If Mayweather had beaten Pacquiao it would have been that all essential cherry on the cake.

When fans look back they will remember Manny's quadrilogy with Marquez and how he tore into Barrera.

When we look back at Mayweather's career we will shrug at the fact the Pacman super-fight never happened - not because his career isn't littered with stellar achievements, but because it is the glaring omission.

These are my gut instincts which history will bare out.

Complaints and contradictions about drug tests and catch-weights will die with the times. The stone cold facts won't.

Always battling against a current of doubt, Mayweather should have jumped at the chance to face his key rival. Instead he acted like a manager and lost the chance to forever silence his critics.

 

They both acted like managers. Except one agreed to the others demand.

 

Completely disagree. Bob Arum was going to sabotage that fight and the Clottey contract was worked out, in advance, while the negotiations with Mayweather were taking place.

Pacquiao signed a fight with a guy coming off a loss in only a few days because that contract was already worked out DURING negotiations with Mayweather. But Mayweather ducked him? Sorry, that argument doesn't fly at all.

The only "shadow" that exists is how bad he would have whipped Pacquiao's ass.

 

Exactly good write up- there will always be a shadow in PBF's mind "what if"...Floyd missed the opportunity to be great...he's the one bothered and not Manny Pacquaio...both are filthy rich and it doesn't matter who got more $$$, remember you spend pesos in the Philippines and Floyd spends dollars

 

The whole drug testing thing seemed very fishy on Manny's part, especially the reasons he used as to why he didn't want drug tests very soon leading up to the fights.

Phobia of needles? He has tattoos, so unless he got them while he was knocked out under general anesthetics I don't buy that at all.

Said he'd be too fatigued if he was drug tested within days from the fight? It's not like they're taking a liter of blood out from your body and forcing you to go anemic, all they need is two vials at most which equates to a few hundered milliliters.

It just seems fishy, that's all. Now if he adhered to a more strict drug testing policy and than Floyd still wouldn't fight him, than I'd say Floyd would be partially to blame.

And how Manny has changed his tune so much about drug testing now makes me question his achievements that much more when he was dominating guys from 2009-2011.

Still, for anyone to even think he deserves a chance against the P4P king he has to get back on a winning track and try to avenge one of his more recent losses (although I had him clearly beating Bradley, it still goes down as an L for him.)

Garcia at this juncture is more deserving of a fight with FLoyd than Manny is. And tbh, i don't think Arum has any interest in seeing Manny get taken to school by Mayweather, a guy Arum once stated as being one of the greatest fighters of all time.

 

He won the highest grossing fight in the history of the sport.

 

Funny that Pac is irrelevant after 1 KO loss , but Amir Khan is being considered as a possible opponent ! I bet that fight just adds to Floyd's great resume doesn't it atsch

 

I think the underlining point is, regardless of how we apportion blame, Mayweather's career would have benefited much more from a Pacquiao win than vice versa.

 

You're not wrong.

Though some of Richard Schaefer's remarks about how it was the biggest fight of all time were a little cringe-worthy.

 

They both would have. Just like Lennox and Bowe. And Leonard and Pryor. Happens in boxing a lot. Ultimately, they'll be judged on their own accomplishments and as it stands, Mayweather is the finest fighter of his era.

 

This.

 

True, but at the end of the day, when people are looking at where he stands in terms of being a p4p ATG, this is going to hurt his standing big time.

Neither Lewis or Bowe are p4p ATG's and SRL did pretty good for himself, because he had so many other signature wins, the same can't be said about Floyd. He doesn't have a Hearns, a Hagler, a Duran, and so on.

 

People still believe Manny to be a legitimate threat to floyd. based off what? I don't know, but the fact that they still see it as a viable matchup probably means people will be asking floyd about manny when wondering about his career until the end of his days, which obviously means that they should have hammered out a deal a few years ago. I know one thing, im gonna miss both of them when they're gone. I havent seen a bad pacquiao fight other than clottey and mosley, and both of those poor in ring showings cannot be attributed to manny, and floyd is just a sublime boxing technician. they will both be missed.

 

It won't hurt his standing. It'll stand on its own merit. If anything it hurts Manny.

 

Well it hurts both of them, but if one of them is claiming to be the GOAT then it's obviously going to hurt that fighter more than the other.