Money has earned the right to fight whoever he wants...Bertoe included!

I find it amusing how people scrutinize Mayweather's opponents and act as if you can't do it to every single fighter from the last twenty years.

 

Every single fighter in the past 20 yrs has not claimed to be tbe

They also didn't spend the majority of their careers cherry picking guys or fighting part time ..But hey go ahead and try to compare .

 

Actually you can nitpick everyone's resume. People have been doing this to Floyd before the TBE mess so that's just an excuse.

 

Yeah that may be true but what's the point of a fight you will get no credit for, give unlimited ammo to haters, and damage your stock? This is just plain a stupid thing to do on Floyd's end, and it's not even like it's because he had a tough fight with Pac. It's completely insensible now that it's known he's not retiring.

 

If you ignore TBE because he obviously isn't and hold his resume up to fighters since the 80's, it looks pretty damn good to me.

 

He's the highest paid athlete on the planet. There should be no such thing as an easy fight for him.

 

It's easier to nitpick Floyd's because of what he did since moving up from 130 is a joke ! Just because he was paid well for it didn't make those opponents more meaningful.

 

I agree, every fighter in history could get this criticism. Some more than others, of course. By and large, we can go through all the greats resumes and find plenty of soft touches. The main difference is those guys fought almost once per month and fighters today fight a few times per year so there is less time for the easy fights.

I've been saying for a long time that people around here need to stop with these extreme opinions one way or the other and end the trolling of certain fighters/ESB members. There is no need to say "Floyd's resume is cr ap" (its not) "Golovkin hasn't fought a world class guy" (he's fought top 5 and 10 middleweights, they ARE world class but not elite) "Garcia is a cherry picker" (he did fight Judah, Matthyse and Khan) "Fighter A is scared of fighter B"

Most of these guys want to fight the best out there and prove their greatness. Most of the problems stem from having teams that want the best dollar for least risk. That's just the name of the capitalist game. That's life.

We should all just enjoy the great matchups we get and ignore the ones where the outcome is determined beforehand. After a while, the promoters and managers won't be able to make money on the mismatches and will be forced to put the top guys in with one another.

 

He's the TBE WW....

 

For those people who have a problem with Floyd's career resume you do realize he was promoted and controlled by Bob Arum for 36 of his 48 fights?? So are you guys saying that Top Rans cherry picks for their fighters? What then does that say about poochiao

 

How can you be this dumb

Marg was koed by Mosley

Floyd fought mosley

Paul Williams never proved himself on Floyd's level.

If Floyd fought marg he might miss Mosley. Why take the easier fight? Mosley was better than margarito.

 

He's got some bad apples in his bunch but that doesn't negate his entire resume. There's not one fighter that doesn't have bad apples. And "Just because he was paid well for it didn't make those opponents more meaningful", I never said that. But fans speak with their wallets, he's the highest paid, so I think the haters are in the minority.

 

:deal

 

Good points, I can't understand why somebody would bother arguing something when they aren't willing to listen why somebody else disagrees, it's this simple, you can't claim a fighter has a resume full of cherry picks when people explain why it ISN'T full of cherry picks, you either have to accept their explanation or counter it with your own equally valid point. This place would be a lot better if people actually debated and expressed their thoughts instead of resorting to tiresome trolling and creating new threads with the same three themes because they didn't want to explain why they thought a certain way.

 

I'm not sure if I'm being trolled, or not. I usually assume the former on this forum which is why I'm mostly inclined not to respond.

You've totally missed the point, or have blatantly dismissed it.

Going back to your earlier post, you claimed that I wouldn't have given credit to Floyd if he fought opponents at their perceived peaks. My contention is that if Floyd had fought the most perceived threatening opponents available to him over the last 10 years then his perception amongst fans and observers would be significantly more favorable, and that's regardless if he had won or lost those fights.

You're assessment of the validly of these opponents opens up a new can of worms. We've already veered off path of the thread so I just assume save that topic for another thread another day.