money is what they fight for... bottom line

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by keure, Nov 6, 2009.


  1. keure

    keure Active Member Full Member

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    I am a boxing purist but i am also realistic, these guys fight for a living for the same reason many of us are beginning our boxing careers or our professional careers outside of sports. We fight/work for paychecks to provide for our family and friends. I hate it when immature uneducated fans get on here and criticize guys like mayweather, delahoya, and now even pacquiao for taking big money fights and not challenging the best comp. I think it exposes these so called experts as men who have never endured the rigors of training for a fight. I f they had trained for a fight i garuntee they would want to get paid as much as possible for it. ive said this before and i will say it again, if your boss told you, you can work harder at a more risky job for less money but people will think you are tough, or you can work smarter an incur less risk and get more exposure for more money, i think everyone knows which one they would take. These huys put their lives on the line to entertain us, they should be compensated as much as possible, so stop pretending like you know anything at all about the game, and making stupid comments like hes only in it for the money, of course they are.
     
  2. keure

    keure Active Member Full Member

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    stop saying mayweather is scared of paul williams, and pacman is scared of bradley, because these men have been fighting for years and i garuntee they are scared of no one, they just wanna get paid. Paul williams is great no doubt, but he did struggle with the same margarito that everyone on here now speaks of how limited a fighter he was after mosley destroyed him. Paul Williams doesnt draw bottom line. The crowd at mandalay bay when he fought winky was less than half full, and the 2 biggest names on his resume are a washed up wright , and a limited fighter in margarito who many of you claim was waiting to be exposed. People dont talk about how much of a struggle that fight was for williams, so imo williams resume and his popularity doesnt warrant a shot at mayweather.
     
  3. Cage

    Cage Well-Known Member Full Member

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    your an easy "fan" to please then. . .

    When you consider a fighter like Floyd. . .

    He has made his way to the top of the tier. He has a **** load of money already.

    He is the one that claims hes an all time great, hes the one that claims he will beat anybody, hes the one that claims he 'fights the best' . . but unfortunately he dont have the resume to prove it and its rather insulting to me as a boxing fan that he thinks I would be dumb enough to take his word for it.

    **** his money!!! the fans rightfully want to see this guy fight in a match where there is no catchweight, no lingering question marks, no has been, no little guy, no BS.

    Honestly, every fighter out there should just black list Mayweather. Dont even give him any fights. The division will do just fine with peeps like Mosley, Cotto, Pac, Williams, Berto etc. . . at least they are willing to fight each other.
     
  4. ninerskeet

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    sure... money is the bottom line... when they earn the right to dictate their own terms... until then they gotta sweat into the sport to make it.
     
  5. sugarsean

    sugarsean Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I do not believe for one second that money is the bottom line, I think that is such an ignorant statment,I believe all the greatest fighters in history fought for legacy and the love of the sport just look at a fighter like Alexis Arguello who was depressed from the moment he had to retire and Roy Jones Jr who is still fighting at 40. and if it was about money why did Joe Frazier not quit as soon as his eyes started to close on him and just take his pay cheque in the 3rd Ali fight he risked his life and could of died that night and the reason why is because that fight was about legacy and thats what true great fighters fight for

    listen if your main goal is money then your going to get found out in boxing
     
  6. FlatNose

    FlatNose Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who wants to watch a bunch of spoiled, arrogent, millionaires cherry pick their opponents? Just the fan boys and nuthuggers I suppose.
     
  7. ExplosiveTinMan

    ExplosiveTinMan I am watever u say i am Full Member

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    I don't have a problem with pfb. If he wants to earn as much money as possible as easy as possible then fair play to him. But he then can't come out and say he is the g.o.a.t or anything like that and not expect criticism. He should fight Mosley especially if Manny loses. I'd fancy him to beat mosley. Also I don't agree that I or anyone else can't question him or any boxer cus i'm not a pro fighter. It's all relative baby.

    Bottom line is Floyd should be thinkin bout his legacy and fight the best ww's. Don't think thats expecting much.
     
  8. Bazooka

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    There comes a point where its not about Money, its about giving the fans who are really the reason you made that money, a fight they want to see..

    Sorry but defending Floyd along these terms is weak, I recall when Williams became the mandotory for Margarito, and Margarito was ready to dump that title to fight for a big pay day against Cotto, the floyd fans were not having it..... SO shut up
     
  9. vonBanditos

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    It's not my ****ing job to worry about a fighter's paycheck. Make the fights we want and the money will flow. If enough fans are happy to watch you fight inferior competition then more power to you, but I'm going to talk **** on a boxing forum because my motives are not the same as a boxer's motives.
     
  10. Atritionist

    Atritionist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't have a prob with fighters making some money, i understand they got to eat and ****. But I still expect them to fight the best competition in their respective weightclass at some point. In the case of Mayweather, who has vasts amounts of money, he doesn't need to make every fight a super mega payday fight. You know he can afford to take a fight that will really test his skills against someone like Mosley, even if it don't make him < 10 mil.
    He will get respect, even if he loses. He will get respect for taking on a dangerous fighter. What if Hagler, Herns, Leonard, Duran, etc... had the same philosophy. We would of missed out on alot of great Match-ups.
    I'm upset at the fact that the Pac and Cotto fight is taking place at 145 versus 147 and Cotto has to put up his belt. Roach fells Cotto is shot and is hoping to weaken him a little more by bring him down as much as he can, he originally wanted 142. This just leaves an open window of doubt if Pac wins. People will say well Cotto was not at 100% but if it was at 147 he would of won.

    Fighters, with an emphasis on those that claim to be the "best", need to prove that by cleaning out their division, thats rare these days.

    I was glad when DLH got beat by Pac, because he chose to fight for bigger money against a fighter he thought wasn't as risky (though he had to weight drain himself) instead of fighting Margo, like he said he would. I would of had more respect for Oscar if he would of fought Margo and would of got beat to a pulp. I would of said well Oscar stayed true to his word and took a big risk fighting a killer Margo. **** I don't think Margo is the same after the Cotto fight, so Oscar might of had a chance but took the ***** route and looked like a fool against Pac.

    I like Pac, but am pissed with the way Roach and Arum have been moving him through higher weights choosing the path of least risistance. i don't blame Pac for this.

    Mayweather is the most skilled fighter of our era but has decided to take the easiest fight for the most money in recent times, I hope this changes and we see the Floyd of before. He made his Money that he deserved, now give the fans that pay his PPV the real fights. Prove RA wrong, I think the Rugged Man would love to be proven wrong so he can see a great match-up.
     
  11. cilldara11

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    You're completely right. Even Sugar Ray Robinson pulled out of fights the night before he was scheduled to fight because he wanted more money. I firmly believe that if Mosley, Cotto and Margarito were big pay per view attractions, Floyd would have fought them all by now.
     
  12. Cage

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    and thats to say that Mayweather is a big draw?

    If the guy showed up by himself the only people that would be there is the Floyd doubters and media hounds to pound him with more questions as to why he wont take any competitive fights.

    when he fought Hatton, it was hatton fans that filled the floors
    when he fought DLH, it was DLH that filled the seats
    when he fought Gatti, gatti fans filled the arena
    when he fought Judah and Boldimeir . . . oh wait, that was mostly empty seats and crickets

    the sport will only thrive if the best fighters actually fight each other. Mayweather is so bad for boxing on so many levels it would take me 2 days just to make a list about it.
     
  13. keure

    keure Active Member Full Member

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    these are easy statement s to make coming from guys whio have never been in a fight and dont know the knid of determination and hardwork it takes to be a proffesional. These guys put there lives on the line so internet brawlers like you can write about them and criticize them. Im not saying fight cream puffs for big paydays because the bottom line is in order to get a big money fight both fighters have to be some kind of draw meaning they both have to be somewhat established to make it a ppv. Everyone on here makes it seem like floyd and pac andc dlh were fighting amateurs and getting gigantic paydays. People can never be happy for guys, people on here love to hate, pacquiao is scared to fight a black fighter, or mayweather is scared of mosley and cotto, or dlh was overrated.
     
  14. Martini643

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  15. keure

    keure Active Member Full Member

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    what your saying in theory is great but you know mayweathe rwill never get the respect he deserves and nobody can honestly disagree with that. If he beats mosley, they will say mosley is too old, if he beats pac, he was too small, if he beats cotto, margo ruined him, if he beats williams, he was weight drained, and if he loses to one of these guys, floyd himself was overrated. This may not be what you think but i think even you know this is what the vast majority will think.
    He took 2 years off and came back destroyed the consensu number 2 pound for pound guy, he didnt beat marquez because he was bigger, he was a better boxer. If you really know boxing you know floyd doesnt impose his size on guys, he outthinks them and then he outboxes them. Thats exactly what he did against marquez. If floyd weighed 125 pounds on fight night he still would of destroyed marquez, so people need to stop talking about the bs size excuse.