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That is a very warped sense of reality.
"Bash PBF" because people don't agree with you that he can win versus ATG??? not your plain top 50 ATGs. Some of them are top 5 ATGs!!

WTF - what do you want? For us to say PBF wins almost everyone of these fantasy matchups versus PROVEN top ATGs. Is that the only way it will not be PBF bashing? Basically you want us to say PBF is top 3 ATG and top 3 H2H.

And who said he has no skills? What is this obsession with some people creating this strawman argument about "PBF having no skills?"
The biggest and most legit criticism about PBf is the lack of elite ATG victories in his resume (not saying it his fault) compared most of these boxers in the comparison (notice I said MOST - so don't bother bringing up ODLH or anybody else you think that dont cut it).
Instead of addressing that, you come up with your own "no skill" argument which no one brought except you.

In fact, many including his critics already says he is the most natural gifted boxer of his generation. The EXACT OPPOSITE of what you are saying.


WTF???

 

you guessed wrong.

Don't try to bring me down to your level.

 

patsch:blabla:blabla

 

It's the ridiculous statements that I have a problem with like Oscar KO in 3. These are comical at best. Considering Oscar has always struggled with guys like PBF and has already lost to him to boot. PBF is always on the losing side of these debates they act as if he's not one of the best counter punchers and one of the most accurate punchers in history and if he's easy to hit clean and these guys will just steamroll him out of the ring, which wouldn't happen because the guy is too good defensively for that to occur especially at his best weights. With the lone exception being Hearns who holds a extreme stylistic as well as a physical advantage here. The truth is PBF is a great H2H fighter and matches up very well H2H with everyone on that list and has a realistic shot of beating them all except Hearns and SRR. People need to lay off the hate and look at the match ups more closely.

 

Spare me with that **** get off your high horse and lets see your list then? Who does Pac beat?

 

this is why Floyd is overrated. He is a great H2H fighter based on what? He hasn't fought anyone close to the level of those guys. He lost 3 rounds against Judah, at least 4 rounds against a past prime Oscar, a controversial decision against Castillo in the first fight and lost 5 rounds in the rematch even if he won clearly.

Floyd is not half the head to head match up that people claim he is.

That's not hate just telling it like it is.

I don't know if people are blinded by the 0 on his record, the slick style, or the flashy attitude.

 

Robinson, Leonard, and Hearns were all big welters. Floyd is a lightweight.

 

He's a great H2H fighter based on styles and talent who has few weaknesses. The guy has only lost a handful of rounds in his career never been dropped and makes his opponents look like they never laced up a pair of boxing gloves before in their life.
Also you act if Duran, SRR, Oscar, SRL and Arguello won every round of every fight they were in.atsch All of them lost rounds all of them lost fights all of them them got knocked down or KTFO. So by your logic no one can be great because if you lose rounds that prevents you from being great.

BTW where is your list for Pac?

 

Yes, but versus who? Who has PBF has faced that is remotely near these ATGs. Oscar is probably the best one but we all know ODLH was YEARS passes his prime. ODLH was still a threat and PBF was fighting at a weight far from his ideal, yet at best you can say that was a close UD (SD officially).

So even if I give him the benefit of the doubt he barely eeks out a win versus ODLH - who he has speed and style advantage.

I mean what is the shame for PBF to lose to some of these ATGs? ****, 99.9 of boxers out there would **** a goat just to be even be compared to 1 of these ATGs, let alone 10 of them!

Regarding Pac - I say he wins vs ODLH, Arguello, Saddler and Whitaker - all under 147 (ideally 130-140). Everyone else he loses.

 

I officially wont vote in the poll because there should be a "none" category and a "Floyd would duck most or all of them" category.

 

I will write my list for Pac when you start a thread about Pac. Typical of all the Pac haters to wanna turn every thread into a Pac thread.

Floyd is a great H2H fighter based on the perception of his style that people who think they are boxing purists say is the best to give themselves a pat on the back. It's bull****. He has flaws like everyone else and if you've paid attention we've seen those flaws at moments even against lesser quality opposition.

Yea Floyd is undefeated and yea Floyd has never been dropped but there are tons of fighters who were undefeated or never been dropped because they had not consistantly faced the quality of opposition that was good enough to defeat them or drop them and then eventually they were dropped or lost.

Its too much hype, not enough substance. Like I said I've seen the flaws and I'm not buying into it.

 

Thanks for your post.:good I respectfully disagree though. Pac would get outboxed badly by Pea who would be one of the worst stylistic nightmares he could possibly face. Pea would keep Pac on the end of his ATG jab and frustrate the hell out of him with his clowning and defense. Pea by wide UD would be my pick

 

He's a great H2H fighter based on his SprLW resume is my guess. Since 135 and above, he's done NOTHING to suggest he'd beat bigger, and much more proven fighters.

 

Done
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256082

 

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