Money ranks @ 28-30 ATG, Manny 42-46

Currently, not all-time...

I would rank Floyd #1 currently too.

 

I got Floyd Top 40...he is a consensus top 50 however and I respect anything putting him in the top 50.:good

 

Big IF.

 

But in the official record books, Pac is the only boxer who is credited with lineal championships in four different weight classes (flyweight, featherweight, junior lightweight, and junior welterweight).

 

Marquez is currently #1, the only man to fight both, and both times he made the move from 135 to 147, those two are in the same division and won't fight each other, those two are not P4P kings.

 

Not a bad top 10. Here's mine.

1. Lanford
2. Greb
3. Robinson
4. Armstrong
5. Charles
6. Pep
7. B. Leonard
8. Duran
9. Fitzsimmons
10. Gans
11. Walker
12. Tunney
13. Ali
14. Louis
15. R. Leonard
16. Ross
17. McLarnin
18. Canzoneri
19. Barbados Joe Walcott
20. Charley Burley

My first four are pretty much set in stone, the only argument being should I rank Greb above Langford. Five through ten are pretty well set to but I am willing to be more flexible with the order. Eleven through twenty gets a bit trickier and Im open to criticism and idea's.

 

I feel you....but PAC and Floyd are on top regardless of their hang ups in solidifying the fight we all want to see.

 

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Resumes include losses, draws, and controversial wins. Any of those will hurt a legacy, with very few exceptions, when discussing an ATG list. Especially when discussing fighters from this era, where one loss is much more meaningful than it once was.

When looking for fights which fit the above description, Pacquiao takes the cake over Mayweather 7 to 1:

Pacquiao's resume is littered with some early KO losses including during his first title reign, the clear defeat to Morales, the three super close fights with JMM of which one was officially a draw and the other two SD/MD, as well as his six round dirty and even affair with Agapito.

Mayweather's resume contains the first Castillo win.

People also forget about Pacquiao's first devastating run in his prime as WBC International Champion defending against a lineup which the best fighter of was Nedal Huessein. Pac's resume pre-2007 is overrated; Barrera, Morales X2, Sasakul, Ledwaba. And since then, he's got a bunch of Oscar's, Diaz's, Mosley's, Margarito's, Clottey's, JMM split decisions, in addition to his great wins over Cotto and Hatton. Great resume, clearly above Jones Jr and Hopkins, but not above Mayweather in my opinion.

 

I strongly disagree here-- Mayweather's best early wins of Corrales and Hernandez, ill toss a bone and include Manfredy, and Castillo-- if they are what mark a consideration for a resume topping that of one including Morales, Barrera and JMM back to back while hopping weight, then I'd say it is they who are at risk of being vastly overrated.

 

Floyd top 50. Pac probably top 30-40.

 

if floyd beat cotto, antonio margarito, paul williams, pacquaio.... all in their prime in prior years. Those matches could have been made. Then down the track stepped up to fight the likes of Sergio Martinez.

IF he triumped over those fighters he still wouldn't belong anywhere in the top ten. The caliber of competition just isn't there. That applies to Pacquaio too.

 

It's all ****.

 

Both Great fighters

 

Uh technically Mayweather has more linear belts. And technically he is still the lineal welterweight champ. I don't think you actually know what lineal means.