Montell Griffein exposed RJJ

Jones only had one win over Toney.

 

Yeah, but Griffin had two

 

I'm on about Griffin who had two wins over Toney, basically I'm saying Griffin was a high quality fighter in his prime.

 

Griffin acctually had two losses vs James Toney.

 

HBO confirmed that Hopkins was demanding a $10m purse. This was when he was getting just over $1m for the majority of his fights.

Sure, he had a huge ego.

Most fighters do.

Calzaghe and Eubank had no intention of fighting him.

I wouldn’t say that his resume was weak, but it’s a shame that it wasn’t stronger.

 

If you didn't know, Griffin was a pretty good fighter. Definitely no slouch. And Jones destroyed him in the rematch to erase any doubt.

 

This is a free post thread for sure!

 

Griffen was rock solid and tricky he's better than anyone at 168 today and Roy Jones was about to blow him away in the first fight before a dq and stopped him in one round in the rematch.

 

And Max Schmeling exposed Joe Louis.

 

Rock solid?

 

Jones was about to brain Griffin good and proper in that ninth round had he not lost his cool and thrown those DQ shots - but in fairness to Griffin he'd given Jones a good argument until that point and there wasn't much in the fight through the first eight rounds. Those who claim that the fight had been business as usual for Jones and that the whole fight had been a doddle, and that Griffin's win was totally hollow, are being a little disingenuous.

For eight rounds Griffin contained and asked questions of Jones more than any other opponent had to that point. I don't think he was necessarily ahead in the fight - but dead even, or maybe only a round or so down because of the earlier knockdown? Seems reasonable to me. He was largely cagey but struck a good balance between attack and defence when needed, and kept Jones guessing by breaking his rhythm and mixing things up. Also accumulated some points while Jones was manoeuvred to the ropes which, even in Jones' pomp, was one of the very, very small (and few) chinks in the armour people used to spot.

But anyway, the fact that Griffin gave Jones a good argument is a compliment to Montell, not a slight on Roy. Jones was so dominant and won with such impudent ease during those years that we sometimes forget there were some very good other fighters in and around his weight classes, with Griffin being one of them. Nobody's at their best on every occasion they step through the ropes, and even allowing for his slight off-night (which, despite feeling a sense of injustice over the DQ, Jones did admit he'd had) Jones was about to find a way to win before he got a little over-eager. No shame in even a great fighter like Jones having a tough night against Griffin.

Anyway, as others have said - there was a rematch, you know.....

 

Yea. He was a very good fighter just not a great fighter. Better than most contenders at 160-168 today

 

And not long after he tested positive for PEDs.

 

So did his opponent. Even playing fields.