Montoya Said NSAC Had No Testing Before 2002

Cool story.

 

Its easier to cite the one error you can find, attack that and believe what you wanted to all along. Ignorance is easy. You've had your mind made up the whole time.

I bet you were screaming the loudest for Manny to take the test based on zero evidence he had ever cheated. Soon as it came to Floyd's doorstep, connections were made, GBP threw out that rumor, you flipped out and demanded evidence.

You are incredibly easy to read.

 

Take care, guys. Thanks for thread.

 

If anything Manny's whole reaction of asking to be tested was stupid.

He acted like someone who was trying to hide something.

That's why there was more pressure for him to take the test.

 

It was the worst. They had everyone in his group coming out with an excuse every week. Bob was pissed when i called him on it for the Marquez/Pacquiao 3 conference call. he had me kicked off the call for mentioning it.

No doubt those actions lost trust with fans. I can understand that. I wish people would not live in the past and treat this like a Manny vs. Floyd issue. Its a complex subject that moves in many directions. Maybe Manny vs. Floyd is one. I prefer to think of it as the catalyst Tyson asking Holyfield for tests was not.

 

dickhead :tired

 

Flat out lies.. Then comes on here trying to get sympathy for his lies when caught (don't even really believe that's Montoya) claiming he wrote too fast and loose... And this is dude we're supposed to believe is breaking PEDS stories? **** out of here.

 

Dude, you caught an error. I'm glad I caught this thread so I could put that in here. I should have checked my notes before giving out bad info. You've got nothing to apologize for.

It points out something I feel is important that I am seeing. When USADA put out the press releases for both CIR testing and these new results, everyone bought them as gospel. Turbo, who was dead wrong and was acting like an expert in this thread yet claims to be credible, keeps saying that CIR press release shut me up. I never said USADA never uses CIR. I said they don't use it the way VADA does. They use it in the case of a red flag. Now USADA claims that they use it "strategically."

Ok. What does "strategically" mean? Do you know that Travis Tygart, who runs USADA, used to be its lead counsel? He was an IOC lawyer as well dating back as far as 1988. So when he speaks, you're not hearing a scientist. You're hearing a lawyer.

Press releases crafted by the legal department are not the same as actual data. As we learned here today, just because you read it, doesn't mean it's true. It needs to be backed up, checked, etc.

No, man. By making this thread, you did us all a favor. Thank you.

 

Who are you angry at? Its certainly not me. I screw up something I am now correcting and you throw it all out? I guess Berto didn't test positive for Nadrolone and Peterson didn't for synth test? Nevada's T/E ratio is 4:1 like everybody else now and of course you knew this already, right?

You want to throw it all away and yet I bet you were also a "take the test!" guy.

Its easier to be negative than positive. Its easy to just dismiss things as opposed to accepting a man's humility when he admits he is wrong. Its the easiest thing in the world to hate people.

 

No. I meant it as in "I screw up once and even though I correct it, everything that came before is now a lie?" It was a joke.

 

:thumbsup

Too many people are just looking looking at what others are posting and run with it. Taking time to research and connect the dots is key here. Although it seems like to much work for most of these keyboard warriors to do. lol