Montreal Duran vs PBF at Welter

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Longhhorn71, Dec 11, 2007.


  1. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Typical General Forum posters making their presence known on Classic. Duran's "toughness and grit"? As if that's all he had to combat Floyd's superior black athleticism and philly shell technical skillzz?
     
  2. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    :lol: I'm waiting for Pachillies to post.
     
  3. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Duran>>mayweather when it comes to general radar/spacial awareness, punch slipping ability and innate knack of getting into the best defensive positions on the inside.

    Though sometimes all that is left to be said is Lonnie Bennett KO2 Michael Moorer
     
  4. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Duran is too active and too physical for Mayweather, bottom line. I don't think Mayweather can hurt him, and if Duran doesnt respect his power, then Duran is going to swarm-**** him in a one sided UD. Thats how i see the fight going down.

    However, Mayweather has elite level defense and speed which can be very frustrating. As i say already, i think Duran would just eat through his defense anyway...

    BUT, there is more chance of Duran throwing his dummy out, leaving the ring and going off to simultaneously crying whilst pooing backstage, than there is a chance of Duran winning by KO.

    And that is based on actual, factual evidence
     
  5. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Duran. He forces Floyd to fight his fight. No picknick 4 Duran but he wins a decision.
     
  6. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    You almost got through an entire post, P. You never disappoint. :lol:
     
  7. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    turn the sound off on any footage of jose napoles. He's bounce, bounce, stop and repete. Sometimes hes bounce, bounce, bounce and stop. Any video with the sound off. You don't need any music track playing to see it. You just need eyes something you and el buja cleary lack.
     
  8. Garrus

    Garrus Big Boss 1935-2014 Full Member

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    ripcity coming in again wit da truth. :deal
     
  9. Manassa

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    It's an illusion. Napoles' whole thing was about baiting his opponent in and then returning fire at their most vulnerable moment. It's the most efficient way of fighting - if you have the skill. You think Napoles' opponents didn't try to time him in between his bobbing and weaving? They did, and what they usually got was a very unpredictable reaction. Such a varied combination puncher.
     
  10. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, but how do you know which one he's gonna do? You need the sound turned up to sync it with the samba music. Only then does it become clear. If fighters were allowed their Ipod in the ring I'd bet he'd be a much simpler proposition.
     
  11. horst

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    Anyone who can watch the two Mayweather-Castillo epics and then think that Floyd beats Duran at any weight really needs to check into rehab to chill the **** out for six months.
     
  12. horst

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    Turning the sound off while watching boxing is the behaviour of a cretin. If your eyes and brain cannot work in harmony to see and interpret visual pictures, you should be in a home getting fed with a plastic spoon, not free to self-navigate the world wide web whenever you fancy.
     
  13. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    At least you bring an argument rather than name calling. While it's a mystery what Napoles is going to do when he stops: fire punches or go back to his bouncing. He puts himself at risk. If you know it's comming you can exploit it. Napoles has a very solid resume with wins over Curtis Cokes, Emile Griffith (who was a few years removed from being great, but still very solid), Ernie Lopez, Billy Backus and Hedgemon Lewis. That's not a bad resume, but it's not great either. He was never in the ring with anyone able to exploit him. I'd like to see how he'd do against a younger Griffith, or Ray Leonard, Ray Robinson, Kid Gavlin, Thomas Hearns, Wilfred Bentiez, Barney Ross and Prenell Whitaker. Also against the two boxers featured in this thread Floyd Mayweather and Roberto Duran. All of these boxers are better than anyone Napoles ever beat.
     
  14. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bad judging dose not make a fight or two fights epics. Castillo benfited from bad judgung in both fights. Mayweather was not given a gift in either fight. A blantant robbery was avoided both times.
     
  15. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cokes' primary strength was in his stinging, accurate counter-punching abilities. While he may've been a bit past his best at the time of the Napoles fights, he was still the larger man, and Napoles completely shut down his arsenal with a very poised, methodical game plan. That should tell you something about any perceived "predictability" on the part of Napoles.

    Not to mention you've completely disregarded Napoles' wins over some of the top Jr. Welters of the era (and ever) in Eddie Perkins and Carlos Hernandez. That was his natural weight, after all.