Montreal Duran vs PBF at Welter

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  1. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Which is similar to comparing Duran's performance against Benitez who dominated Duran, where Duran similarly was giving up weight and size in the ring, 18months removed from his greatest win
     
  2. horst

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    Yeah sure this would also be a fair evaluation of the hypothetical. My own opinion is that Castillo and Duran are more similar in style than Benitez and Mayweather are, and that while Mayweather was peak for the Castillo fights Duran was not peak for the Benitez fight. That's my reading of the situation, other assessments based on similar logic are equally valid (though most likely wrong IMO).
     
  3. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    All hipsters anyway. :bart
     
  4. horst

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    And of course I should've mentioned that the difference in quality levels between Benitez and Castillo is clear. Benitez was a vastly superior fighter to Castillo, on a completely different level. Benitez was every bit the fighter that Mayweather is, in fact it would be a good debate on who was better between the peak versions of these two. Castillo was never anywhere even remotely close to Duran's level.
     
  5. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mayweather has changed his style and in demonstrating it in facing down two dangerous fighters in Mosley and Ortiz. He has reshuffled his assets and adjusted his gears and it would now require a new blueprint to solve him.

    I am no longer quite as confident that Duran would make him cry like I used to.
     
  6. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I wouldn't pick Duran to stop him, personally, but I don't think the Mosley/Ortiz fights have much, if any, bearing on a matchup with a peak Duran.
     
  7. Pachilles

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    If someone named Michael Schumacher the greatest Formula 1 driver of all time, you'd name drop a Bolivian from the 50's and call us all sheeple for not agreeing with you
     
  8. KuRuPT

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    You mean like NO bearing what so ever. I'm not even sure why it was mentioned. Mosley had NO business in the ring with mayweather and was well past his best and past his best weight. You give me a Prime Lighweight Mosley against Prime floyd at lightweight and you think the fights would look anything alike their fight? I think not. If Shane could almost drop Floyd well past his best.. you best believe he has a good chance at an idea weight where he was a monster.

    Anyways, I'm really unclear how people are comparing Benitez to Floyd.. I don't think they fight really the same way at all. Similar in ways I suppose, but I would say near the same enough to call that the way to beat a.. past his best weight and prime Duran.
     
  9. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    shut the **** up you stubborn little ****
     
  10. teeto

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    Jose Luis Castillo getting underrated again I see.
     
  11. PowerPuncher

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    Similarities- counter punchers, great radars and defensive footwork to set up counters, both can take away jabs and counter them, both hae great lead rights/hooks, both are rythm breakers, both are masters of range, both slow opponents output, both can fight inside well.

    As for Mayweather-Mosley, don't forget Mayweather would be younger with quicker reactions at LW and he may not be on the front foot so much, yes Mosley stands a better chance but he's clearly technically inferior defensively and with his wider punches
     
  12. teeto

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    :rofl
     
  13. teeto

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    yeah,


    to me if it's doing the scoring then it is good because it is effective, and there's loads of different ways to be effective. I see what you mean though from a technical perspective
     
  14. teeto

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    Mosley ain't beating Floyd ever man, some people love revisionism (real word check, you get me though)
     
  15. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mika Hakkinen is the greatest F1 driver ever for this:
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8yXUsXkHfs&feature=related[/ame]


    and because Schumacher is a dislikable tw*t. You´ve got to respect his talent, discipline and workethic though.