Montreal Duran vs PBF at Welter

Depends if Floyd can deal with Duran's power, personally I think he can't. If true then what's he going to do?

Run around the ring for 12 rounds taking pot shots and trying not to get trapped against the ropes, and hope he survives to get a decision?


Seriously what would be his options if Duran can hurt him at will and Floyd can't hurt Duran. Floyd hasn't shown any great power at w.w. and Duran crushed Moore at 154 and knocked down Barkley at 160.

 

Seriously though, no poster repeats themself more than MAG. ...Except for maybe Koki Kameda.

 

Hagler has 2 ? Hearns is not great in my lists , especially not in 160 , and who does Hagler has more ? also , u wrote

According 2 your own criteria (which u lowered upon replying 2 me) both Hagler & Hearns have 0 , same with Delahoya , Tyson .

 

Wow.

 

Oh, he is worth reading up, fascinating character. I never heard about or saw anyone as ambitious as him - perhaps Ali, Gates and yeah the aforementioned Jobs - who would do anything to reach his goals. If you were in his way, he´d just walk through you. He destroyed quite a few friendships over time to reach his goals. But well, he succeeded. What I have huge respect for is his perfectionism and discipline. Nobody in the F1 ever trained so hard and tried so often to get it right. Senna once said about him you could put a cigarette on a track and tell Schumacher to drive past it by 20 centimetres fo 70 rounds and he´d do so every round. He wanted to be perfect and as hard as he was to others to be so, he was even harder on himself. If a good and objective Bio comes out I´d buy it.
Anyway, my man was and is Mika Hakkinnen. Much more chilled and likable dude and he managed to win two worldchampionships himself, beating Schumacher for them. Charactewise F1 is a bit dire these days, the talent-level is insane though, perhaps the deepest F1 since the late 80s/early 90s.

 

This routine is older and crustier than the undergarments of a World War Two veteran prostitute.

 

****ing yawn. Same MAG, same pile of tired, unjustifiable, biased bollocks.

 

You think it's unfair to equate Castillo and Ramirez?

I think they are pretty close in terms of quality.

Ramirez went to an SD with a good version of Alexis Arguello, stopped peak Edwin Rosario in 4, knocked out an admittedly past-prime Boza-Edwards in 5, and had a richly-deserved win over a peak Pernell Whitaker FFS!! Add that to his insane record of only being properly stopped by Olivares in his 111 fights, and the fact that he only lost to bona fide top fighters through his prime years (Arguello, Mancini, Rosario, Chavez, Whitaker, Camacho).

Ramirez can't match Castillo for achievements of course, nor resume, but he has a better win than any of JLC's IMO (TKO4 a 24-0 Rosario in '85), and he wasn't getting stopped by the likes of Corrales. Whereas Corrales stopped Castillo (as did other guys earlier in JLC's career), Arguello and Rosario couldn't stop JLR.

Ability-wise, I don't see much of a gap, from what I've seen of them. You don't think Ramirez could've split-decisioned Casamayor and/or Stevie Johnston, nor went 1-1 with Corrales??

 

To me, Mayweather's performance against Hatton is the most telling for a welter match up.

Although he ended up disposing of Hatton, he looked very uncomfortable there for a few rounds, and needed his mate Joe to give him a bit of breathing space.

If a fool like Hatton can discomfort Floyd like that, I really see Duran putting it on him.

Mayweather might get back into it at some point, he's too good to be thoroughly dominated, but I don't see him being active or talented enough to get the better of an in-shape Duran.

I actually like Floyd better at the lighter weights where he could at least run a little bit (end result wouldn't change of course). The more flat footed welter Floyd would get chopped up.

 

He'd probably deserve decisions against Stevie J, unlike Castillo, and would knock Corrales to kingdom come. I'd pick him to beat Casamayor too and probably stop him. He probably wouldn't do as well against Floyd though as Castillo did.

 

In an amazing fight I like Duran by decision or possible stoppage ...

 

Ramirez clearly beat Arguello, 6-4 before you even take the knockdown into account.

 

I never even mentioned Ramirez so I haven't even read your post after the first line.

I said he is getting underrated again because people talk about him like he was some run of the mill workhorse yet again

 

I wouldn't call him run of the mill, but workhorse is a good term to describe him, it's not derogatory imo.He was solid and hard working...more than the sum of the parts, but he didn't have any particularly notable technical or physical attributes, other than maybe chin.

same type of fighter as his countrytman Ramirez, though i'm thinking of the better early mid 80s Ramirez when i compare the two...i maybe get the feeling some might be thinking of the slow late 80s version that took on Pea and had become more of a simple slugger without the legs or textbook punching by that point.Castillo was better than that one.