"Montreal" Roberto Duran vs. a prime Mike McCallum

If were talking at 147 then Duran would beat the crap out of Mike.

 

Why would you want to make McCallum fight at 147?.

 

Mainly because the only way to get Mike down to 147 at weigh-in would have been to amputate one of his limbs

 

its another case of Super Duran of Montreal destroys light/middleweights regardless of weight, and also at the weight based on the fact that he edged a split decision over the mighty Iran Barkley(who does not hold a candle to McCallum). In a previous thread MW Duran was also favoured to beat Kalambay, Benn, and Nunn, based on his SD win that couldve easily gone either way over Barkley, who was schooled by those same three men.

 

This actual match was set for late 1983, but WBA 154 lb. champ R. Duran cancelled out and opted for Hearns for bigger $$$ in 1984........... Money rules......

Duran of Canada in June of '80 was 145 pounds, and prolly too small to beat the peaked 1984 version of a 154 lb. Mike McCallum.........

McCallum too big and savvy for Duran at 154 pounds.........

MR.BILL:deal

 

You might want to re-watch Barkley vs Nunn...and Barkley vs Benn, for that matter.

 

Okay Barkley v Nunn wasn't a scooling but it was far more decisive than Barkley v Duran.

You mentioned Benn v Barkley in the last thread, i just ignored it. Seriously what am i missing? Barkley being counted 3 times in a single round? Benn was staggered, but that was Benn, a warrior. His intense pace saw him staggered many times in fights, but he recovered quick and came back firing soon after. It was a reckless demolition job. Duran would not be able to deal with that pace and power at MW. He would be overwhelmed.

The Barkley fight, as a personal victory, is one of the best ever. Is that what you think i dont recognise? I do. But Barkley is nothing significant when comparing Duran hypothetically to top flight MWs. Even more so considering the nature of the victory, it couldve easily gone either way. That fight and a clear loss against Hagler does not suggest he beats every ****er else at MW.

Stylistically i can see an advantage to Duran against Benn. But at that weight, Benn is a devastating puncher, alot faster and alot more intense. With equal heart. At MW, Little tubby Duran would not keep up with the pace, im sorry.

 

The Barkley victory is astonishing. I don't see how some people don't get it? I'm not going to repeat what I've said countless times, I just hope one day you can wake up rejuvenated, without the chip on your shoulder, and credit Roberto Duran for one of the greatest victories and performances of the last 25 years.

 

I don't see what you dont get. No you don't have to repeat it. Duran was past prime, Duran was smaller, yes yes yes, lots of disadvantages, really big upset. Its an astonishing personal win. BUT Barkley is still ****ing ****, compared to top flight middleweights, and it was still very close, against a **** middleweight. So it does not suggest that he could beat the better fighters at middleweight.

 

I agree. Duran of '89 isn't beating Michael Nunn, Sumbu Kalambay, or Mike McCullum.

Benn didn't like to get hit, I don't think it's out of the realms of possibility that Duran could defeat him. ...Not a huge advocate of the man's talent, actually.

 

That's not really the point, though, is it? If Kelly Pavlik moved up to Heavy and beat Chris Arreola by brawling with him, that would be an astonishing achievement, regardless of the quality of Arreola relative to the top-tier operators at the weight.

 

If he did manage to do that would you favour him against the Klitchko's and Haye? Because that is exactly the point

 

You've got to be **** to KO Tommy Hearns & then knock him down & outpoint him in a re-match.

Final score just in:

Thomas "Hitman" Hearns (LEGEND)............0

Iran "The Blade" Barclay.(****ing ****)......2

All seeing & all knowing pachilles....(The Bookies friend)

 

Duran would have a chance if his speed could match Mike. Mike was faster than people thought and that was the key to his success. Duran could not deal with speed well, but Mike is a level below the Hearns/Hagler/Benitez/Leonard level so Duran could have a chance.

 

:deal I agree Duran at 100% would beat Mccallum who i think has become overrated on the classic.